I love a good debate... but I think both sides have made their points, and both seem to be sticking to it. No matter what the topic title is, the debate goes in the same direction and the same points are made. New people who come to this forum at this time are going to think that we are a bunch of whiny pissheads that don't know a thing about boxing.

It is as it is. PBF has the W, Zab the L. Lets talk about it again if they rematch perhaps? Or, if someone can come up with a new take on things? Which I doubt... it's Zab fans making excuses (valid or not), PBF fans combatting those excuses, and neutrals saying that PBF won, and some siding with Zab's excuses.

All in all... we aren't getting anywhere, aren't learning anything new about boxing... just debating with a wall and perhaps justifying our dillusional perceptions. Hardly seems like we're doing what we should be doing on this board.

Just a thought... lets look at what is coming up, or what could come up instead.