Chavez and Whittaker were not prime when Oscar "beat" them -- and the "win" over Whittaker was controversial anyway. Ruelas and Hernandez are not "A+ fighters" (neither is Vargas). He did not deserve the W over Quartey (who's not an A+ fighter anyway). The only thing approaching a "prime A+ fighter" Oscar ever beat was Trinidad (I agree he won that fight) -- though given the way Tito was exposed every time he faced someone with boxing skills, it's not altogether clear he should be classified as "A+". Oscar's KO LOSS to Hopkins obviously doesn't inure to his benefit. Add to that loss the other losses he's had every other time he's gone up against a legit A+ fighter (Mosley twice and PBF), as well as what everyone agrees should have been a loss against the B grade Felix Sturm, and you have a very good, but not ATG fighter (certainly not on the level of Ali, Frazier or Foreman).Originally Posted by Rick_Rack


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What do you mean he hasnt beat any class A fighters? Chavez was old but still was whipping everyones a** when they fought. Quartay whats he? Trinadad he didnt get the W but it was close even went up with Hopkens lost but so did Tito no shame there and Oscar didnt take a dive either! Parnel Whitcker! Ruelas! Hernandez! All were champions! Won the Gold at the Olympics! What are you talking about! ! !
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