Roachs thoughts on oSCAR fLOYD.

[Rick_Rack]

That will be one Id like to see P4P because thats what I think might happen. Not a KO but Mayweather may beat him convincingly this next time but they both no what exactly is in front of them now! And maybe Oscar goes for the early KO he is bigger. Just depends how soon this happens Oscar looked untouched after that fight dispite what anyboy says.

[Wacko3205]

Personally...I thought that Roach & Oscar were a horrible team. I was sitting just to the side of them & Roach looked & bumfuzzle as Oscar did.

If I were Roach...I'd be suckin the fwock up too to get the ride for the rematch.

Truthfully...I hope that Oscar pulls Floyd Sr. into the corner...that would be fantastic...as long as Floyd jr is gonna retire...that way Roger could run across the ring & moon the Predator after Floyd jr knocks Oscar the fwock out in the rematch.

CC#2863 bro! and WHOA did u just say something as bold as PBF gonna KTFO oscar in the rematch

back babe.

Watch the FIF & the 10th round when HBO replays the match again.

Floyd stopped Oscar in his tracks & buckled them knees quick fast & a hurry.

[The Boxer]

PBF was definetly landing the harder shots throughout the fight. DLH would try and flurry and PBF would back DLH off with solid righthands.

[Jman76]

I am a huge oscar fan but Oscar for a veteran fighter fought a dumb fight in rounds 9, 10 and 11 he was just walking into floyd's punches. I acknowledge that it was a close fight a draw at best for Oscar, and if a rematch happens it will be worse for oscar since floyd will make the necessary adjustment and Oscar is not getting any younger and even in this fight his reflexes aren't as sharp as they once were, his handspeed isn't what it used to be, he is more flat footed than ever and doesn't move his head at all in the ring. Oscar should fight either the winner of Cotto-Judah or Hatton-Castillo, there is still plenty left in Oscar to defeat either of these match winners but PBF at this stage would be suicide

Suicide Yeah he may pull his shoulder out of socket from missing a punch, but PBF would just jab him and move away. Don't start with how dangerous Floyd is..... Let me guess he would probably ko him this time around cause he won that exchange the last 5 seconds of the last round.

He didn't win the last 5 seconds of the exchange. Watch it again, Oscar hit him pretty good. Watch it in slow motion...

[Jman76]

http://maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim051007.asp

So what were Roach's thoughts on De La Hoya's split decision loss to Mayweather after reviewing the fight on tape?

“I know we could've fought a better fight. It was my first fight with Oscar and he was doing very well early in the fight with the jab," he would say. "But then in the middle rounds, for some reason, he crouched down and gave away his height to Mayweather a little bit and he widened his stance and took his jab away from himself. I urged him to get back on his toes and jab. It just wasn't there that night. But I thought Mayweather looked good in rounds nine, ten and eleven, threw some good combinations and so forth. But I think we came back in the 12th. We had a very good round.

Good thing Tommy Kaszmerick scored the 10th for Oscar.

One of the judges scored the 12th for Floyd, a round he DID NOT win. If it would have been scored for Oscar, it would have been a draw. So let's not get too picky now...

[shza]

One of the judges scored the 12th for Floyd, a round he DID NOT win. If it would have been scored for Oscar, it would have been a draw. So let's not get too picky now...

Stop with that stupid talking point. The fight was TWELVE ROUNDS, not one. Kaszmerick had scored rounds 8 and 10 for Oscar, rounds he DID NOT win, and rounds which NEITHER of the other judges gave to him. If they would have been scored for Floyd, it would have been a UD. So let's not get too picky now, genius.

P.S. Floyd won round 12. Watch it again and see.

[Big_Deuce]

i know i wont have many on my side but i dont think PBF won convincingly, he didnt dominate anything...dont get me wrong i saw him win some rounds convincingly, however if oscar didnt punch, PBF wouldnt of either, throughout the entire fight oscar was the aggressor. Im not surprised with the SD for floyd, but i wouldnt of been surprised with an SD for oscar either.

you have it backwards. when Oscar punched PBF wouldn't punch. well atleast not as much. PBF was landing solid counter shot that would stop DLH from throwing his meaningless flurries.

You just repeated exactly what i said, thanks But a Counter punch = return punch (by definition). In order for PBF to throw a counter oscar had to throw a punch first. And those counters for the most part, were usually at the end of those flurries.
so like i said before, oscar was the aggressor the entire fight, even the rounds he lost.

[Rick_Rack]

Thats right Big Deuce Have a cc!

[Jman76]

One of the judges scored the 12th for Floyd, a round he DID NOT win. If it would have been scored for Oscar, it would have been a draw. So let's not get too picky now...

Stop with that stupid talking point. The fight was TWELVE ROUNDS, not one. Kaszmerick had scored rounds 8 and 10 for Oscar, rounds he DID NOT win, and rounds which NEITHER of the other judges gave to him. If they would have been scored for Floyd, it would have been a UD. So let's not get too picky now, genius.

P.S. Floyd won round 12. Watch it again and see.

I didn't see Floyd do SHIT in the 12th round. I completely disagree with you, hey that's what it's all about right? That's why we're in this great boxing forum. It was Mayweather's night, the decision went his way...it could have gone either way. It's quite funny seeing the crazy comments people write about it being a blowout!

[The Boxer]

i know i wont have many on my side but i dont think PBF won convincingly, he didnt dominate anything...dont get me wrong i saw him win some rounds convincingly, however if oscar didnt punch, PBF wouldnt of either, throughout the entire fight oscar was the aggressor. Im not surprised with the SD for floyd, but i wouldnt of been surprised with an SD for oscar either.

you have it backwards. when Oscar punched PBF wouldn't punch. well atleast not as much. PBF was landing solid counter shot that would stop DLH from throwing his meaningless flurries.

You just repeated exactly what i said, thanks But a Counter punch = return punch (by definition). In order for PBF to throw a counter oscar had to throw a punch first. And those counters for the most part, were usually at the end of those flurries.
so like i said before, oscar was the aggressor the entire fight, even the rounds he lost.

by aggressor you mean comming forward and getting hit then yeah Oscar was the aggressor. the problem was it wasn't effective aggression.

all i said was PBF let his hands go more when Oscar did punch. there were plenty of time when PBF got off first.

[shza]

One of the judges scored the 12th for Floyd, a round he DID NOT win. If it would have been scored for Oscar, it would have been a draw. So let's not get too picky now...

Stop with that stupid talking point. The fight was TWELVE ROUNDS, not one. Kaszmerick had scored rounds 8 and 10 for Oscar, rounds he DID NOT win, and rounds which NEITHER of the other judges gave to him. If they would have been scored for Floyd, it would have been a UD. So let's not get too picky now, genius.

P.S. Floyd won round 12. Watch it again and see.

I didn't see Floyd do SHIT in the 12th round. I completely disagree with you, hey that's what it's all about right? That's why we're in this great boxing forum. It was Mayweather's night, the decision went his way...it could have gone either way. It's quite funny seeing the crazy comments people write about it being a blowout!

That's funny, cuz I didn't see Oscar do SHIT the ENTIRE FIGHT, except through some embarrassing old man flurries in which he didn't land a single punch (and the crowd, and the three stooges from HBO went nuts). What I saw was a very wide UD. Watch again and pay attention to what actually lands. Oscar was "more aggressive," but didn't land anything. Really, it was pathetic. You don't get points for that.

[Jman76]

One of the judges scored the 12th for Floyd, a round he DID NOT win. If it would have been scored for Oscar, it would have been a draw. So let's not get too picky now...

Stop with that stupid talking point. The fight was TWELVE ROUNDS, not one. Kaszmerick had scored rounds 8 and 10 for Oscar, rounds he DID NOT win, and rounds which NEITHER of the other judges gave to him. If they would have been scored for Floyd, it would have been a UD. So let's not get too picky now, genius.

P.S. Floyd won round 12. Watch it again and see.

I didn't see Floyd do S*** in the 12th round. I completely disagree with you, hey that's what it's all about right? That's why we're in this great boxing forum. It was Mayweather's night, the decision went his way...it could have gone either way. It's quite funny seeing the crazy comments people write about it being a blowout!

That's funny, cuz I didn't see Oscar do S*** the ENTIRE FIGHT, except through some embarrassing old man flurries in which he didn't land a single punch (and the crowd, and the three stooges from HBO went nuts). What I saw was a very wide UD. Watch again and pay attention to what actually lands. Oscar was "more aggressive," but didn't land anything. Really, it was pathetic. You don't get points for that.

Completely disagree with you again. How was Floyd bleeding from the nose then? From laughing too hard? How come he had swollen eyes? Did you also fail to see that? How do you suppose that happened? Care to give a brilliant answer to that? Oscar won barely but he won. We can also make a case that Floyd won BARELY. But it is BS to say Floyd won by a lot!!! BS!!!

[jbirdy]

One of the judges scored the 12th for Floyd, a round he DID NOT win. If it would have been scored for Oscar, it would have been a draw. So let's not get too picky now...

Stop with that stupid talking point. The fight was TWELVE ROUNDS, not one. Kaszmerick had scored rounds 8 and 10 for Oscar, rounds he DID NOT win, and rounds which NEITHER of the other judges gave to him. If they would have been scored for Floyd, it would have been a UD. So let's not get too picky now, genius.

P.S. Floyd won round 12. Watch it again and see.

I didn't see Floyd do S*** in the 12th round. I completely disagree with you, hey that's what it's all about right? That's why we're in this great boxing forum. It was Mayweather's night, the decision went his way...it could have gone either way. It's quite funny seeing the crazy comments people write about it being a blowout!

That's funny, cuz I didn't see Oscar do S*** the ENTIRE FIGHT, except through some embarrassing old man flurries in which he didn't land a single punch (and the crowd, and the three stooges from HBO went nuts). What I saw was a very wide UD. Watch again and pay attention to what actually lands. Oscar was "more aggressive," but didn't land anything. Really, it was pathetic. You don't get points for that.

Completely disagree with you again. How was Floyd bleeding from the nose then? From laughing too hard? How come he had swollen eyes? Did you also fail to see that? How do you suppose that happened? Care to give a brilliant answer to that? Oscar won barely but he won. We can also make a case that Floyd won BARELY. But it is BS to say Floyd won by a lot!!! BS!!!

agree with ya there mate. it was a very close fight and i had it to oscar maybe by one round, but i think oscar let himself down again with his stamina, but to say that floyd won it easily is bull shit. floyd talks that much shite i think the habit must be rubbing off on his die hard fans.

[shza]

One of the judges scored the 12th for Floyd, a round he DID NOT win. If it would have been scored for Oscar, it would have been a draw. So let's not get too picky now...

Stop with that stupid talking point. The fight was TWELVE ROUNDS, not one. Kaszmerick had scored rounds 8 and 10 for Oscar, rounds he DID NOT win, and rounds which NEITHER of the other judges gave to him. If they would have been scored for Floyd, it would have been a UD. So let's not get too picky now, genius.

P.S. Floyd won round 12. Watch it again and see.

I didn't see Floyd do S*** in the 12th round. I completely disagree with you, hey that's what it's all about right? That's why we're in this great boxing forum. It was Mayweather's night, the decision went his way...it could have gone either way. It's quite funny seeing the crazy comments people write about it being a blowout!

That's funny, cuz I didn't see Oscar do S*** the ENTIRE FIGHT, except through some embarrassing old man flurries in which he didn't land a single punch (and the crowd, and the three stooges from HBO went nuts). What I saw was a very wide UD. Watch again and pay attention to what actually lands. Oscar was "more aggressive," but didn't land anything. Really, it was pathetic. You don't get points for that.

Completely disagree with you again. How was Floyd bleeding from the nose then? From laughing too hard? How come he had swollen eyes? Did you also fail to see that? How do you suppose that happened? Care to give a brilliant answer to that? Oscar won barely but he won. We can also make a case that Floyd won BARELY. But it is BS to say Floyd won by a lot!!! BS!!!

Oscar landed about 100 punches, none of them flush. That's enough to cause a little bit of bleeding and swelling. Knocking someone's gloves back into their own face when your shot is blocked will do the same thing. Again, fights are not scored on what someone's face looks like -- they're scored on actually landing punches. Oscar landed a few, but not very many. Floyd landed a lot. Wide victory for Floyd.

[meowza]

http://maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim051007.asp

So what were Roach's thoughts on De La Hoya's split decision loss to Mayweather after reviewing the fight on tape?

“I know we could've fought a better fight. It was my first fight with Oscar and he was doing very well early in the fight with the jab," he would say. "But then in the middle rounds, for some reason, he crouched down and gave away his height to Mayweather a little bit and he widened his stance and took his jab away from himself. I urged him to get back on his toes and jab. It just wasn't there that night. But I thought Mayweather looked good in rounds nine, ten and eleven, threw some good combinations and so forth. But I think we came back in the 12th. We had a very good round.

Good thing Tommy Kaszmerick scored the 10th for Oscar.

One of the judges scored the 12th for Floyd, a round he DID NOT win. If it would have been scored for Oscar, it would have been a draw. So let's not get too picky now...

Yeah, but you can easily argue that one of the judges scored the 8th and 10th(I think?) for Oscar when the other two judges didn't. IF Tom Kacz...something agreed with the other two judges in those rounds, we would've had a UD. Or if he agreed in one of those rounds we would've had a MD. But we didn't.
What of it?