i thought he was a bum--he beat golota, rahman, oquendo (by kayo). --all that means is that those three guys are bigger bums than him---which i can live with---especially rahman who is the number one bum in the division

throw out the holyfield fights b/c holy was shot by the time john got to him--john cant put him on his resume anymore than larry holmes and trevor berbick can put ali on theirs. plus john lost one of those fights and the third fight he nearly got kayoed in the last round or two......plus as we know, tua embarrassed him plus he had other losses to nondescript guys like the late sergei kobazev and i think journeyman dannell nicholson. plus he got embarrassed by two former middleweights who were past their respective primes even..........

so really what did he do? he beat a half dead holy (and drew and lost to the same half dead holy), he beat golota who was way past his best when the fought and is a choke artsit in big fights anyway, plus golota nearly had him kayoed, he beat rahman who is just a modern day buster douglas living off one hail mary shot he threw 5 years ago--rahamn might be the most overrated guy today or perhaps all time --we saw what a piece of junk he was in the toney fight--plus rahman looked like he was 30lbs overweight anyway when he fought ruiz...........oquendo is a never was and a smallish HW anyway...he git a little push there a couple years ago but hes not really a good fighter anyway.....kirk johnson was also overhyped--we've all seen what a fat disgusting waste of space kirk is so i dont think john can take a whole lotta credit for that win

i think the losses to the two journeymen in kobazev and nicholson and the flat out embarrassments to tua, toney, jones, and most recently with valuev (ok theres an argument he may have won, but it wasnt highway robbery and if u cant get by a joke sideshow like valuev in a easy fashion---than u suck as a fighter)---far outweigh anything positive ruiz did in the ring..he was just an oppurtunist who got lucky to be fighting in the right era and fighting the right guys at the right time (ie overweight fatties like johnson and rahman, washed up guys like golota and softies like fres).......goodbye and good riddance if he does retire