Quote Originally Posted by skyler
Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Bx730NY....Sam Peter couldn't put Wlad away where as if a Rocky, Louis, Foreman, Dempsey, Tyson had Wlad hurt, they would have won.

Sam's chin is pretty good but that has nothing to do with his or Wlad's power....and nor does the fact Sam hit Wlad behind the head......a very HUGE sign that Sammy doesn't hit as effectively as other fighters.



Your dislike of Wladimir has no point in any argument that can go on in here given the topic at hand.
You have GOT to be joking Do you honestly believe that Marciano, Dempsey, or Louis would even be competitive with a 6'6 245 lb fighter like Wlad to begin with
I agree. I'm beginning to think there's certain people on this board that simply cannot grasp the concept of reality. Earlier in this thread, there are people who actually say, 'well if Marciano or Dempsey weighed 245, they'd hit harder than Sam Peter.' This is about the dumbest and furthest thing from the truth that can be said. Do you honestly believe a fighter adding close to SIXTY POUNDS will not at all affect the way he fights Different people are different sizes. Just because Dempsey and Marciano are shorter, doesn't mean that no one their height can be naturally heavier. Tyson is the same height as both and NATURALLY 30 pounds bigger than both. It's called genetics. Different people have different genetics. Rocky and Jack simply are not big enough to compete with most remotely skilled heavyweights in history. It's not to detract from their accomplishments, because they fought who was put in front of them (with the exception of Dempsey refusing to fight any Black fighter of course ). The point is, when you say Rocky Marciano would only need to get up to 245 to be the hardest hitter of all time, you sound about as dumb as someone saying that if Tommy Hearns moved up to heavyweight, his right hand power would carry up to that weight with him. It's just dumb