Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
The simulated fights for Ray worked well. A week before the fight Quincy Taylor hurt Ray Leonard in sparring). Ray was going to try and really fight Marvin toe to toe(this is what Ray said but who knows if he is telling the truth) but Taylor hurting him made him change his mind and box. As for Ray fighting Marvin when both are prime? Well that is another discussion if Ray prime could beat Marvin prime. Let's say they fought in 1983 (giving him a year to bulk up after the Finch fight)when Ray had time to bulk up a little to middleweight. He did fight Kalule at 154 so he could probably come in weighing 156/157 like he said he would at the time. It is hard to figure this fight but in my mind Ray beats Marvin in 1982 similar to 1987 but using more movement and Ray not being on the ropes as much as in 1987 and using sharper combinations.. My point was that Ray in 1986 used his intelligence out of the ring to get the advantages he needed to beat Marvin in April 1987, yet those advantages would not have worked in 1985 when Marvin used his physical strength effectively. As for Ray, he needed those advantages in 1986/1987 since he was inactive for a few years, but he also knew he could get the equalizers since Marvin was slowing down. And he did. In 1982 he had enough skills to not need the advantages I think. Although 15 rounds against Marvin would have been tough. But Ray would have done it I think.
Fair enough agreed with that for the debate could you have look above your post bro see if you have seen that fight.