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LOL tried to sort out the quotes like you but am not very good at it yet and didn't wanna mess up the post....

Anyway, first, Tito fought Winky at 160 not 154. And Tito might have been taller than Oscar and Mously but he was a skinny guy and most would agree that he was not suited for the middleweight division.
Haha. No worries. You're right about it being at 160. But to be fair, Winky was the one coming up in weight for that fight. Trinidad had fought there and held titles--it was Winky's first fight up from 154.

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Shane did not handle Vargas easier. The first fight was even untill they stopped it because of the swelling. And that was the same shot Vargas.
As per my other post, I really disagree. I didn't think that fight was anywhere near even. I thought Vargas looked horrible and won maybe 2 rounds. He would have been KO'd if the fight had continued.

I'm not going to respond to everything. You're right that I forgot about Campas and Carr (I don't think the way past his prime Whittaker really matters)--good point there. For a lot of the rest of it, I think we just disagree because we saw the fights differently. Which is good and fair, of course.

CC for the good discussion!
WOOT 100 posts. Now I can CC and I'll give you my first CC for good arguments. I guess we'll just agree to disagree hehe I'll see if I can get my hands on that Vargas-Mously fight. I only saw it that one time and I guess I saw it differently than you at the time.

In the end I said I agree with Max in that I think he meant that DLH does not have that W in a big fight. Unless you consider his win against Whitaker his big win, which I guess is acceptable. But that win was not very convincing to many. He also has his wins over Chavez which were pretty impressive even if they were past his prime.

In the end DLH is still a great fighter who gave us all great fights and I truelly hopes he retires before he gets dominated like Winky did to Tito and people don't start doubting how great he is.