Do you guys Agree with Max Kellerman

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I really disagree with the Vargas comments. The guy has lost to only the 3 top fighters in his era. It puts him in the same category as Hearns. He lost to Hagler, and SRL but he's still a damn good fighter. Vargas beat Winky, but lost to ODH,Tito,Mosley. How does that make him a bad fighter? He fought the best in his time frame and so what he lost some. I can't stand it when a fighter becomes crap when they lose. The guy was a very very solid fighter. And his losses to the best guys in his division don't change that at all.

Vargas in the same category as Hearns? Hearns beat Pipino Cueves to win his first title. 11 defenses for Cueves to that point, Hearns beat Wilfred Benitez for his second title.. one loss for Benitez to that point and that was to Sugar Ray Leonard. Hearns was the only man to knock out Duran to that point. And Hearns outboxed Virgil Hill at Lightheavyweight. Virgil was undefeated with 10 defenses ... That was Tommy's 6th world title . Hearns did not lose all his big fights. Vargas did. I do not think I was unfair to Vargas. Tommy is 4-2-1 against the Hall of famers ...Can you say that for Vargas? I respect you defense of him, but the numbers are not in favor of him being like Tommy. Tommy lost his 2 biggest fights but won the rest.. That is the difference, he did beat the other 4 legends he fought. Out of the 6 guys he fought.

I did say category, not on equal footing. I don't think that Vargas is as good a fighter as Hearns, but he is in the same category in that he fought the best and gave good showings. He's the last guy to beat Winky, and some people say he was winning against Mosley (not me), and some even say that he would have put Tito away if not for Tito's low blows. So if you consider those factors he's got a pretty solid resume.

I am not a big fan of the guy, but I have a lot of respect for him. He's a tough sob and people discrediting him over his losses is ridiculous. In addition if he didn't have a severe back injury the outcome of some of those fights may have been different. Anyway, he doesn't deserve the "never was" label. He was a solid fighter and beating him was a solid accomplishment.