love the logic you used eagle, green vs beyer 2, beyer was a bad fighter, but just had the book on green ,who was not at his best anymore.. BUT yet here years later, when mundine beats green, THIS is absolutely a remarkebale thing in boxing history.. maybe in australien boxing, but not on the world scene..

the logical equation would be, if the green fight was big for mundine, then beyer was huge for kessler.. but lets not get carried away, mundine beating green is not that big of a deal.. and you keep talking about the winky fight when referring to soliman, so because soliman won max 3-4 rounds against winky, this is the way you judge him, based on a good loss..

both green and soliman er solid fighters, soliman jumping up in weight, and a green a couple of years from prime time, im not saying they are not solid wins, they are, but nothing more then solid..

AND MUNDINE LOOKED GOOD, BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK YOUR SELF THIS, ISNT IT EASIER TO LOOK SHARP, WHEN YOU TAKE A STEP BACK REGARDING YOUR OPPONENTS QUALITY..

but eventhough im of another opinion then you, i agree mundine has improved, but not to the extent that he is a completely new fighter.. those who claimed he lacked confidence the first time, THAT is completely and utter bullshit, 2-3 times he invited kessler in, with his hands hanging low, THIS does not even remotely seems of a man lacking confidence..

now lets talk kessler..

he has had i fights, ko beyer, and shotout of andrade, both good wins, and kessler fights has been at least equally as good as mundine´s

and lets talk some facts, so some of you, know the real deal about their first fight.. kessler has frequently dealth with severe back problems, at one point it looked like it was going to end his career.. he had some problems with it up to the mundine fight.. this resulted in his roadwork was far from great, and even worse his sparring was really low, actually when you compare the amount of round from the mundine fight to the andrade fight, kessler had 5 times as much sparring for the andrade fight.. he sparred aROUND 30 ROUNDS FOR MUNDINE, ,and 150-180 for andrade..

but eventhough this is the case, i will agree that he was prepared, otherwise he shouldnt have fought, but what i am saying, is that kessler was not in his best form, i wouldnt be to much, if i claimed he missed out the last 5-10% of his game..

this is for me the X factor, what happens when kessler brings 100 % to the table..??

im not saying kessler is impossible to beat, i just think that he is better than mundine.. and its not like i think kessler will blow him away.. my opinione 8-4 kessler

to sum up, maybe mundine has improved slightly more then the other smw, due to his lack of amateur background, but les not get carried away.. mundine was also a top fighter 2 years ago, and eventhough he looked good, he has done nothing that has set the division alight..

its one thing looking good against b level opponents, and much harder against a-level..





lets be reasonable here, mundine is absolutely amongst the best in the division, and yes he has improved, but those claiming 1o fold or 70 % you gotta be kidding me..