Heavyweights who didnt acheive greatness but could of in a different era ???

[BIG H]

Yea to say Wlad or Brewster would beat Tyson is really laughable and nothing else.. Come on. Vitali would have a shot.

You are not reading what I said; Wlad has all the tools to not just beat him, but to easily beat him. Brewster I said was a 3 in 10 shot.

Tyson never, ever beat someone who stood up to him.

BK - honest answer, if Tyson retired after the Spinks fight where would you have him in your all time top heavies??

I have him #11. with that scenario you stated I guess I would of had him #6.

I like my fighters to show redemption, but you cannot redeem when you have not lost.

.....Because you have previously said, that at that time you had him as number 1!! Now bearing in mind that after that point his demise as a fighter was almost certainly due to events outside of the ring, you should rate him as you did in his prime, as you would for say Ali.

Too many people assume that the fights he lost, he would still have lost if they had have happended circa 86-89 and that people that came along later such as Lewis would have beaten Tyson during this period.

Fact is we don't know for sure, but my opinion is that he was a shadow of himsellf from 89 onwards and therefore we shouldn't lend any thought to those fights when placing him in the all time list.

Too many people also say that if you stood up to Tyson you would beat him - sounds pretty simple that, but it might require a little bit of fighting ability too I don't think not being afraid and standing up to Tyson would've given anybody any more of a chance of beating him during his prime period.

If you watch his fight against Biggs and then watch the fight against Holyfield - you cannot compare those 2 Tysons as a fighter - no head movement, no jab, no lateral movement, flat footed, I can go on - but they were different animals!!