Was Floyd even Knocked down?

[Purist]

EXACTLY!!!

[AdamGB]

there is room for argueing, look what we're doing now. Most refs aren't stupid and pracitcally all of them know the difference between a fighter loosing his balance. They have the power to stop a fight if some one is practically out on their feet etc and its basicly the same call. I don't really see that many people arguing when fights get stopped nowdays (obviously the fighter will...) and this is basicly the same.

I don't blame Starr though she's going to use any technicality she can to say that her boy hit Floyd with a punch that floored him, when what she actualy should say is 'my boy Zab hit Floyd off balance with a punch that had the 8 pounds of his arm behind it and he stumbed backwards'.

[YounGun]

there is room for argueing, look what we're doing now. Most refs aren't stupid and pracitcally all of them know the difference between a fighter loosing his balance. They have the power to stop a fight if some one is practically out on their feet etc and its basicly the same call. I don't really see that many people arguing when fights get stopped nowdays (obviously the fighter will...) and this is basicly the same.

I don't blame Starr though she's going to use any technicality she can to say that her boy hit Floyd with a punch that floored him, when what she actualy should say is 'my boy Zab hit Floyd off balance with a punch that had the 8 pounds of his arm behind it and he stumbed backwards'.

I agree that the punch wasn't much, and that the punch was only one factor in Floyd's glove touching the canvas. However, with the rule as it is now, the only thing that can be argued is whether or not the rule is flawed. According to the rules, it is crystal clear that Steele missed the call. Because if you have the rule book infront of you, and watch the replay, Floyd was without a doubt knocked down according to the rules.

I think it's made this way so that calls are consistent. With the rule the way it is now, if a ref sees a punch land, and a part other than the feet touching the mat because of the punch, he is to automatically rule it a knockdown. He doesn't have to get a look at the guys eyes to see if they are phazed, or take into consideration how well the man/woman takes a punch generally, or the power that the other fighter has in his punches etc.

It's just simple, punch landed, part touched the mat, knockdown.

[AdamGB]

Simple and stupid. I know how the rule works... just can't stand Judah fan boys running around saying that Floyd was knocked down as if he was actually hit with something meaningful that phased him... their despiration is starting to get funny.

[YounGun]

Simple and stupid. I know how the rule works... just can't stand Judah fan boys running around saying that Floyd was knocked down as if he was actually hit with something meaningful that phased him... their despiration is starting to get funny.

Oh I totally agree with you man. That knockdown is not something to be proud of. Judah should have been credited a 10-8 round sure (which wouldn't change the outcome), but it doesn't make Floyd look more vulnerable or anything.

It was a knockdown according to the rule book that Steele missed... that just shows how unconvincing of a knockdown it really was.

[Purist]

Me being a judah fan has nothing to do with the knockdown that should have been counted. You act like I'm trying to glorify it when in reality I am saying that it was a knockdown.

I will ask you again if Zab had not hit Mayweather, would Mayweather have had reason to have his hand touch the canvas? AdamGB because if you can say yes to that question honestly, then by all means it wasn't a knockdown.

[AdamGB]

Starr, I never said that Floyd's hand touching the canvas was not classifiable as a knockdown according to a set of rules and the little pawing jab was one of the many factors that made it happen... Like I said a knockdown to me is a concussive or paralysing punch to the head or body that floors a fighter because they are physically unable to conciously stand. My point was never to do with wether or not technically it should of been scored as this or that... just as a reminder to fan boys who need to stop chucking knock down around as if it even has the credibility to be called that... outside of sanctioning bodies and rule books we all know what a knock down really is... forgeting rules here if your going to say that thats what fans of boxing would call a knock down then it's been taking to such a watered down level that its not even the same word.

[AdamGB]

Seeing as you seem to take in half of what I say I'll clarify one more time... according to some Mickey mouse technicality it was an unscored knock down... according to any one who is not going to get anal just because they like Zab Judah is was not a knockdown.

[Taeth]

It wasn' that punch that knocked him down, and I don't think he was all that hurt just stunned it seems.

[Purist]

Starr, I never said that Floyd's hand touching the canvas was not classifiable as a knockdown according to a set of rules and the little pawing jab was one of the many factors that made it happen... Like I said a knockdown to me is a concussive or paralysing punch to the head or body that floors a fighter because they are physically unable to conciously stand. My point was never to do with wether or not technically it should of been scored as this or that... just as a reminder to fan boys who need to stop chucking knock down around as if it even has the credibility to be called that... outside of sanctioning bodies and rule books we all know what a knock down really is... forgeting rules here if your going to say that thats what fans of boxing would call a knock down then it's been taking to such a watered down level that its not even the same word.

So you're agreeing that it IS a knockdown. You just don't like people taking glory in it because you don't think it was that big a deal?

[SalTheButcher]

Seeing as you seem to take in half of what I say I'll clarify one more time... according to some Mickey mouse technicality it was an unscored knock down... according to any one who is not going to get anal just because they like Zab Judah is was not a knockdown.

it WAS a knockdown, no-one is saying he was out on his feet

[Rahman]

The punch may have hurt him but I don't think it made his legs go, look at Judahs feet... theres hardly any weight in the shot its an arm punch and he was off balance and stepping back when he threw it any way.

When I see Floyd... I see him crouched down really far and stumbling from it mainly due to his lowered center of gravity and the fact that he moved his body to far from his legs.
















* don't hate me sal :P *

It was not a knock down at all in the Judah fight . . . Mayweather have very great chin and can block every punch very well so he would never be KO so easly in his career . . .

[SalTheButcher]

but mayweather have no good balance, so would fall in match of judah

[El Gamo]

but mayweather have no good balance, so would fall in match of judah

Hahaha cc.

[AdamGB]

The punch may have hurt him but I don't think it made his legs go, look at Judahs feet... theres hardly any weight in the shot its an arm punch and he was off balance and stepping back when he threw it any way.

When I see Floyd... I see him crouched down really far and stumbling from it mainly due to his lowered center of gravity and the fact that he moved his body to far from his legs.
















* don't hate me sal :P *

It was not a knock down at all in the Judah fight . . . Mayweather have very great chin and can block every punch very well so he would never be KO so easly in his career . . .

My boy! cc :P