I get it and will take this opportunity to say to Pantera and Wacko I was wrong in my appraoch to the challenge.

Lets just say when Pavlik wins you will start a Pavlik post giving him the credit he deserves, since you have really clasified a 30 - 0 fighter with 27 KO's and 9 against guys who have never touched the canvas as an amatuer.

If Miranda wins I will start a post giving him the credit he will deserve after beating Pavlik, since I have labeled him as a guy that has no boxing skills and while in Columbia beat guys with either no record, no wins, or just 1 win and could not put away a guy with a broken jaw.

Does this sound like a better type challenge since we are both probably the biggest fans on this site of each fighter.