cc for the above post chris. good reply to Gally.

btw, I didn't mention the wrist connection to yuo a couple days ago because I hadn't thought of it yet! that that one too. they're both pretty good, but I think the elbow one is harder on the shoulder, while letting you snap it out there faster. Right now I mix it up between the two, and sometimes I'll connect them both as I've shown, but that's a very hard workout. a few reps and your arm is tired as hell.