Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I was reading some old topic and utter nonsense i was reading im sorry Cockey Cockney i like you man your one of my favorite posters but what you typed here was totally wrong.



Tyson v Shavers- Tyson KO.
Tyson v Lyle- Tyson KO.
Tyson v Foreman- Tyson UD.
Tyson v Frazier- Tyson UD.
Tyson v Ali- Tyson KO.
Tyson v Norton- Tyson KO.

So IMO he would beat them all, in his prime he was amazing.


Tyson imo is one of the most overrated boxers of all time the man didn't beat anyone really well if you think beating old shot Holmes or beating the natural Lightheavyweight who only got title getting gifts of a faded Holmes makes him unbeatable your all dreaming Tyson had good skills but when i hear this utter nonsense that Tyson had amazing defense he never got it blah blah is totally wrong the man had talent i never denied it but for people to think he is unbeatable all this other nonsense Cockey Cockney i am not having a go at you mate i was just quoting a post which i totally disagree with and i want people to tell me why they say this because when i watch him i see hw with good talent but nothing unbeatable or this aura of invincibility they think he has am i missing something or what because im just not seeing it folks i want your thoughts.

Ice i like you alot but Tyson stopped Holmes in 4 rounds he was down 3 times in that round the 3rd out cold now an arguement can be made that holmes was old but Holmes went on to do alot after Tyson so he was'nt that faded he went full 12 with Holyfield beat unbeaten Ray Mercer UD10 went full 12 with WBC champ McCall and quite a few thought he had won so Tyson stopping him in 4 was a really good result as for Spinks yes he was a former Lightheavy but he had beaten Holmes twice then beat 2 more heavys by stoppage Tagstad and Cooney both reasonable Cooney was 17stone and only lasted 5 rounds with Spinks. Tyson stopped him 1 this was a great result for Tyson as many considered Spinks as the linear champ so i don't think Tyson was overrated he just had to many problems the D'mato loss the Jacobs loss then Cayton and King fighting over him Givens srewing with his head and so on so he faded pretty fast i like to believe had D'mato and Jacobs not died he would have probably retired undefeated passing Marciano's record with millions in the bank Tyson was weak mentally he was to young he needed looking after but instead he was taken advantage of by King and others.