Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
Quote Originally Posted by Dav
Jimmy Wilde was undoubtedly one of the greatest pound for pound fighters in history. For those who say he never really beat anyone of note.... Joe Lynch was a world ranked bantamweight, as was Memphis Pal Moore... Joe Conn was a world ranked featherweight.... all of whom Wilde conceded at least a stone to.. and when you only weigh 6st 10lb (94 lb) that is one hell of a percentage of your bodyweight. The men he lost to (Lee, Moore, Sharkey, Herman and Villa) were due to; illness (Lee), bad refereeing (Moore), excessive weight difference/inactivity (Herman), and inactivity/old age (Villa). The only defeat that can be considered genuine was the loss to Jack Sharkey and that was only a newspaper decision (although Wilde readily concedes that he lost the fight). If anybody can give me the name of a fighter who has a better record and knockout ratio than Jimmy Wilde I will be glad to hear from them.
Have you ever seen him fight?? Anyone??.... By all accounts he was a great p4p fighter, and his story really is an amazing one, as if what he achieved... But if there is no footage available of him, or anyone he ever fought/beat... THen how can anyone even pretend to say he was the greatest p4p anything? How can you compare his boxing ability to anyone of which there is footage?? It's just not possible to determine that.. Let alone the fact that the sport was in it's early stages and has evolved tenfold since those days..

I'm in between you guys,I didn't actually know much about an of the opponents which you listed nor the reasons for his losses so thanks for that and P4P,I have about 3/4 of hi fights. He was a very good fighter,an offensive whirlwind with good speed and if he's fighting guys that outweigh him by that much,thats amazing!! Thats what makes evaluating fighters from the past' ranking P4P wise. Not only did they fight many many more times,but they also fought guys who outweighed them by ALOT more! They used to have to wait a long long time for title shots, and even when they used to win titles,they would have so many non title defences.

CC for the articles,I recall making a thread about him before and I managed to find a few fights of his. I don't think I'd call him the greatest of all time though.