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i remember that chris was a shell but Jc did look good...but it was obvious that chris wasn't the same fighter...just wondering does anyone give JC credit for beating him...
Certainly.

While Eubank was past it...I'm not so sure that I'd say he was a shell or a ghost or something like that. He was still fundamentally with it enough to give Joe a good 12. I was really impressed with both men in that fight.

I think many fail to give Calzaghe his dues & hunt waaaaay to many reasons to justify it.
Eubank was weight drained and had like a week to make the weight plus he was well past it and losing to Collins twice imo he shouldn't get much credit for beating weight drained past it Eubank fair play Eubank hung in there but it was nowhere near a prime Eubank.
I just think that your'e wrong there.

Eubank fought a good fight & again...he was still able to give Joe a good fight.

By that age account & being past it...pretty much every fighter out there has been in the same position as Joe was with Eubank.

Take Tarver for instance...Roy was weight drained & blah blah blah...granted he had more time, but he still gave Tarver a hard fight...& IWO...he lost the first fight to Tarver...just as he did the two to follow. My point is...the skill level & abilities were still there in Eubank & no matter what he or his team said after the fact. Also...IWO, Eubank was a fool to take such a fight on that short of notice. Coming out of retirement & not being prepped with no longer than a week to make weight...that's his fault.

I never NEVER said anything about primes...but if the question arises...I have no doubts about the outcome being different in the end...Joe would have been victorious. For some reason...many people just forget to factor in Joe's output & they often lable it as pitter pat or slap shots...which, clearly by the amount of TKO's, his punches add up to much more than that.

Fact of the matter is Eubank was more past it than when Jones fought Tarver as someone said he had to lose silly amount of weight like 20 pounds in one week how good can you be in on short notice like that ?? he hung in there and made it competitive but Joe shouldn't get credit for it i don't see why you should give him credit either but that speaks for its self that Joes biggest win is again weight drained shot Eubank.