Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Quote Originally Posted by Preme
As much as i lvoe barrera (and he is my fav fighter of all time) i don't think he has the heart, hunger or desire to reall beat pac or JMM again...

In his last 3 fights he has shown he wants to box his way to a win. Whislt i thought.hoped he was saving him self the JMM fight showed he just doesn't want it like he used to anymore... whislt i will always consider barrera a better fighter than pac, right now barrera can beat him, but i just don't think he wants it enough anymore...
Exactly! The only people that think MAB can beat PAC are diehard MAB fans,ain't noboday else on that wagon.

Quote Originally Posted by miles
Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
MAB JMM2 would be good but JMM won comfortably in the end and has the W to prove it.

Manny would destroy MAB at this stage in their careers. mab said the camp for his fight with jMM was one of the best he has ever had and although he fought well in the beginning,he realised he could not stand and trade nor could he outbox JMM. Pacman would crush him. MAB waited way way too long to rematch Pac,Manny is on the up,MAB is on the slide.

If MAB could not outbox what is in effect a counter puncher turned pressure fighters(for a handful if fights) in JMM,how is he going to beat the monster Manny?

The signs of MAB slipping can be seen in ihs first fight with Juarez which although he won,was far far too close against a limited fighter like Juarez. MAB has had a great career,a legend but he should take an easy fight and retire or retire altogether.
Is Barrera really on the slide? I thought he boxed well against Marquez and would have won clearly had the knock down situation not been so messed up....

He performed poorly against Juarez in the first fight. But he showed he can still raise his game when it matters as he did against Marquez. To say he is on the slide is to suggest he got roundly whipped by Marquez which just wasnt the case.

One last fight how the legend sees fit...I see no issue with it being Pac if thats what he wants to do...
When Manny KTFO MAB,then we'll see and I beg to differ.Even if the knockdown had been called,MAB may have won on YOUR card but not on the official cards!


"The W proves nothing . We know how dodgy the judges decisions can be in Vegas . They have a history of bad decisions and this is yet another one. They robbed Barrera in the 1st fight with Morales and he had to beat him twice in rematches and I think they want to see the same thing happen here . They want a trilogy out of Barrera but he doesnt need to fight Marquez again . People saw him statistically outpunch Marquez aswel as drop him so the big fight out there for him is Pac .

Its your opinion Pac will destroy him . Pacs a guy with mixed results himself and if a washed up Morales can beat him then Barrera certainly can"GAME

Right,so the W means nothing...... Robbed MAB in the first EM fight?? You need to go and watch it again,it was a close fight,there was no robbery and if there was,it was as much of a robbery as the second fight going to MAB People also saw MAB trade with JMM,get the worse of it and get on his bike. He was also nearly stopped. I don't see any mixed results from Manny. Pacquaio lost to a superb Morales the first time and he stopped that same superb Morales the second time.

My point is MAB is a legend and a great fighter but he has wasted time fighting Peden and Mfana when he should have fought Manny. He didnt and has not looked the same MAB. He needs to retire and if the Manny fight comes off,you'll see why.

How would MAB beat Manny>? And Manny's losses apart from the one to EM are irrelevant,most where when he was weight drained,fighting at 112 etc.
i have to agree with miles here - i thought barrera was well unlucky in he JMM fight and was robbed bad in the first EM fight... i have watched that fight a shit load of times and never once even seen that as an unlucky for barrea, always has been a robbery IMO, one of my mates who loves boxing and disslikes barrera will swear down bareera got robbed in that fight

Prime forprime, barrera would out box, out think outmoved and out skill manny in every single way...

he has the chin the take his hits, the power to hurt him and the overall game to beat him... it would not be a walk in the plak, but manny would not beat him prime for prime. even now i think barrera would give him a tough fight..