Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Every time i see lists of atgs and hypothetical match-ups between new and old era fighters a lot of people automatically give the older fighter all of these passes..like oh he had a great chin, he could punch, he was a warrior, etc etc and say that well the new guys don't posess any of these attributes and give the old guy the nod...

Ali, Marciano, Dempsey, Louis, Johnson, would all be beaten easily by lewis and holfield

foster,moore,spinks would all be crushed by RJJ

monzon,hagler,ketchel,fullmer, would all be beaten by hopkins,jones and toney



ortiz, leonard and duran would be beaten by PBF and mosley

that's all IMO...


Some of that I agree with, BUT PBF beating Duran and Leonard?! Hell Mosley would have a tuff time with both those guys and still lose.
mosley easily beats them..but i wasn't talking about SRL rather good ole benny...

Quote Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Every time i see lists of atgs and hypothetical match-ups between new and old era fighters a lot of people automatically give the older fighter all of these passes..like oh he had a great chin, he could punch, he was a warrior, etc etc and say that well the new guys don't posess any of these attributes and give the old guy the nod...

Ali, Marciano, Dempsey, Louis, Johnson, would all be beaten easily by lewis and holfield

foster,moore,spinks would all be crushed by RJJ

monzon,hagler,ketchel,fullmer, would all be beaten by hopkins,jones and toney

ortiz, leonard and duran would be beaten by PBF and mosley

that's all IMO...


Perhaps in some cases your right..

But just for the sake of arguement

Hagler gives Jones , bernard and toney a great deal of trouble..Even though i love them all

Leonard ..I dont know that floyd beats him or not.. But to say they destroy the old timers is way off
prime lennox destorys all of them toooooooooooooooo big and skillful they would hhave never seen the likes of him
Lol..I never mentioned lennox!! Wtf yo! Lol

And plus yes he does..Aside from ali..Thats a great close fight..Ali was not a small heavyweight atall not like the others.. But if they were all in this time would they be heavyweights? or would they be able to use the advantages of greater training today to theyr advantages to eb better then they were and keep up