Question for Meunouk or Luke (or whoever else knows about the body)

**boyla** · 05-11-2005 01:31 AM

Bit too much too soon , i have to ask why you want to do this and what do you think it will acheive
Never skip a meal you will lose weight and your body will store fat when it enters your system
Do not lift weights everday
Work out your legs and back to put on weight

**Fantana** · 05-11-2005 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by boyla

Bit too much too soon , i have to ask why you want to do this and what do you think it will acheive
Never skip a meal you will lose weight and your body will store fat when it enters your system
Do not lift weights everday
Work out your legs and back to put on weight

Absolute brilliance, you are obviously an expert on all of this and your comment was detailed to the extreme. A worthy edition to this thread

**Dizaster** · 05-11-2005 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Meunouk

Originally Posted by cillenmolin

www.musclegaintips.com has a bit of info about effective ways of gaining weight..Â Â It's a lot of the basics, but their may be some information on there you could benifit from...

It seems as though you'll have the works outs down,,,Â just concentrate on eating.. If the weight isn't going on, i'd try eating more and NOT working out harder.. if have have been training for a few years, even LESS training and more break time could give you more gains...Â It sounds strange, but occasionally your body needs different environments to cause different reactions.. and if your doing the same thing you've always done, your body may not react in a way you want it to if you just do MORE of the same...

But my number one tip is eat more than you can handle... eat like it's a job and not a luxury.. eat in between eating.. eat when your not hungry.. eat when you don't feel like eating anymore..

Which is not the right way to go, so be quiet.

KO - Youve got a good body fat level, but eating anything less then 5 times a day and getting enough calories in your diet (and percentage of carbs, proteins and fats) is not going to result in gains. People dont realise this and eat whatever they want saying "I PUT ON WEIGHT, I DONT PUT ON WEIGHT" etc etc

I would recomended you start off with something like 50% carbs, 30% protein 20% fats in your diet for 2 weeks and see how you get on. You need to sort out how much calories you need...if you cant do the sum check my other posts or PM me with all your details and I will do the bloody thing for you!

I do realise when your coming from when you said my suggestion is the wrong way to go... I have a lot of respect for people that take the time to sit down and work out a specific diet taking into account protein/carb/calorie etc quantities.. And the fact you are willing to assist him in working out a good diet for his needs is more than most people would do.

I guess my advise is coming from my own exerience.
I have a job that requires me to put in quite a few extra hours on top of the 9-5 which doesn't leave me the greatest amount of time in general for activities outside work. Also after a long day working my motivation suffers.
I also have a very limited budget when it comes to bodybuilding and training.
These factors led me to keeping it simple and trying to eat as much as I could..
For a long time I was just simply not eating enough to put on the muscle I wanted.
I tried to plan out my meals & things like that, but just couldn't seem to find the time in amongst everything to actually plan the meals and prepare them... I'm sure if my dedication was at a higher level such as yours (and probably the original poster) I could be getting better results. I've also found that eating a lot of good foods becomes exensive, and it really streches me to give myself a good food intake every week..
So in the end I decided that i'm just going to eat whatever I can (within relatively strict guidlines) WHENEVER I can... I found with trying to keep my diet to strict and planned, I lost motivation or slipped up often which dicouraged me...
Now though i'm gaining the weight i'd been waiting to put on for a long time, simply by eating at every opportunity, and not concerning myself with the food content to much..
Again though, if time & money were on my side more, i'd put in the extra yards to tune my diet for better results..
Hey I might even ask you for assistance when the time comes

**boyla** · 05-11-2005 10:48 AM

Also lift hevy weights to put on weight, and do not go to the gym too much, be careful if you overtrain you will actualy lose weight

/\/\ thanks Meunouk, im chuffed to bits

ps have you tried this without suppliments

**Fantana** · 05-11-2005 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by cillenmolin

Originally Posted by Meunouk

Originally Posted by cillenmolin

www.musclegaintips.com has a bit of info about effective ways of gaining weight.. It's a lot of the basics, but their may be some information on there you could benifit from...

It seems as though you'll have the works outs down,,, just concentrate on eating.. If the weight isn't going on, i'd try eating more and NOT working out harder.. if have have been training for a few years, even LESS training and more break time could give you more gains... It sounds strange, but occasionally your body needs different environments to cause different reactions.. and if your doing the same thing you've always done, your body may not react in a way you want it to if you just do MORE of the same...

But my number one tip is eat more than you can handle... eat like it's a job and not a luxury.. eat in between eating.. eat when your not hungry.. eat when you don't feel like eating anymore..

Which is not the right way to go, so be quiet.

KO - Youve got a good body fat level, but eating anything less then 5 times a day and getting enough calories in your diet (and percentage of carbs, proteins and fats) is not going to result in gains. People dont realise this and eat whatever they want saying "I PUT ON WEIGHT, I DONT PUT ON WEIGHT" etc etc

I would recomended you start off with something like 50% carbs, 30% protein 20% fats in your diet for 2 weeks and see how you get on. You need to sort out how much calories you need...if you cant do the sum check my other posts or PM me with all your details and I will do the bloody thing for you!

I do realise when your coming from when you said my suggestion is the wrong way to go... I have a lot of respect for people that take the time to sit down and work out a specific diet taking into account protein/carb/calorie etc quantities.. And the fact you are willing to assist him in working out a good diet for his needs is more than most people would do.

I guess my advise is coming from my own exerience.
I have a job that requires me to put in quite a few extra hours on top of the 9-5 which doesn't leave me the greatest amount of time in general for activities outside work. Also after a long day working my motivation suffers.
I also have a very limited budget when it comes to bodybuilding and training.
These factors led me to keeping it simple and trying to eat as much as I could..
For a long time I was just simply not eating enough to put on the muscle I wanted.
I tried to plan out my meals & things like that, but just couldn't seem to find the time in amongst everything to actually plan the meals and prepare them... I'm sure if my dedication was at a higher level such as yours (and probably the original poster) I could be getting better results. I've also found that eating a lot of good foods becomes exensive, and it really streches me to give myself a good food intake every week..
So in the end I decided that i'm just going to eat whatever I can (within relatively strict guidlines) WHENEVER I can... I found with trying to keep my diet to strict and planned, I lost motivation or slipped up often which dicouraged me...
Now though i'm gaining the weight i'd been waiting to put on for a long time, simply by eating at every opportunity, and not concerning myself with the food content to much..
Again though, if time & money were on my side more, i'd put in the extra yards to tune my diet for better results..
Hey I might even ask you for assistance when the time comes

Have you been monitoring your vital statistics and body fat % ??

What is your routine like now? what weights, cardio, rest do you have?

Im sure we could change it slightly

As for food being expensive, its true, but I really just eat brown rice and chicken mainly

(Â£3.97 for 3 breasts of around 5 oz sometimes 60z so im getting 15- 18 oz which is about a days worth)

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**Dizaster** · 05-12-2005 03:08 AM

^^^^
I only lift Mondays and Thursdays.
I lightly train on speed & double end bags Tuesday,Friday.
Heavy bag Wednesday, Saturday & completely rest Sunday.

My main objective at the moment is putting on muscle mass as I've had health problems for the past 3 years and was down to 56kg's at one stage. So you can also see why it's not bothering me putting on any weight I can. I'm sure once I get back some of my size i'll fine tune and keep that body fat percentage at a good level.
When I lift, I use only free weights, and go really heavy so i'm only pushing out about 7-8 reps at the most. I also have knocked each workout down to only 5 exercises each.. If I go all out on every one of them, I can't dream of adding a 6th exercise.. And I find this is working very well.....

Can you suggest a few good meals that I could prepare at nights to have during the day at work? We have a fridge & microwave at work so cooling and reheating is fine..

And I guess I have to admit I havn't been monitoring my vitals & BF% lately.. as I said, i'm still recovering from illness & am happy with putting on any weight at all... But your suggestions are more than welcome.

**Fantana** · 05-12-2005 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by cillenmolin

^^^^
I only lift Mondays and Thursdays.
I lightly train on speed & double end bags Tuesday,Friday.
Heavy bag Wednesday, Saturday & completely rest Sunday.

My main objective at the moment is putting on muscle mass as I've had health problems for the past 3 years and was down to 56kg's at one stage. So you can also see why it's not bothering me putting on any weight I can. I'm sure once I get back some of my size i'll fine tune and keep that body fat percentage at a good level.
When I lift, I use only free weights, and go really heavy so i'm only pushing out about 7-8 reps at the most. I also have knocked each workout down to only 5 exercises each.. If I go all out on every one of them, I can't dream of adding a 6th exercise.. And I find this is working very well.....

Can you suggest a few good meals that I could prepare at nights to have during the day at work? We have a fridge & microwave at work so cooling and reheating is fine..

And I guess I have to admit I havn't been monitoring my vitals & BF% lately.. as I said, i'm still recovering from illness & am happy with putting on any weight at all... But your suggestions are more than welcome.

What foods do you like?

Brown Rice and chiken, 90 g of brown rice and 3oz of Chicken gives you 100 calories + 150 = 250 calories and 35 g of carbs, protein and 5-6 grams of fat (there abouts)

Depends what foods you like

Check your PM too