Quote Originally Posted by amat
Taking a dive suggest that a fight was fixed. He definitely did not give all he could give but can you blame him? Mike Tyson was the baddest man on the planet. He was the most feared in all of sports. Seldon was scared, he didn't want to be in the ring.

Augustus versus Vester is something that would be considered a dive. Someone being scared and looking for a way out isn't.
Taking a dive is not acceptable but is not neccessarily meaning that a fight is fixed. It can be more a question of another fighters heart simply flaking out. Who is to say if money exchanged hands regarding prior agreement to a dive? Who is to say if Tyson would have been complicent in such an act? There is no open fact and only speculation which is why I think its too much to say a fight is fixed per se....

We can have an opinion and speculate but unless we have hard facts then it shouldnt be spoken of as fact. It is merely conjecture...