first off joe aint knocking kssler out. I've never felt joe punch but I don't think that h reallyhits that hard. on the other hand I think kess has a little more pop than joe. I will be honest I don't like joe but as a fighter I respect the LITTLE that he has done. people talk about kess not being tested but what about joe. his last few fights have been fairly easy. but when he fought a guy who could hit back a little like bika he had a hard time. kess is better than bika. its not like joe is some defensive whiz. his defnse is his offense for the most part. kess has a lot of questions but so does joe. its a 50/50 fight imo. kess might not be as god as he looks but imo joe might not be either.