Quote Originally Posted by amat
Wacko you always do this to me, make me defend a point I don't like defending. I think it got to the point where I agreed with you to much I started going the other way, I don't know.
Heh heh heh. in another 24.

Quote Originally Posted by amat
First being that the only other guy who can lay a single claim to that title possibly being his is fighting at 170 lbs next time out. Let's not get carried away on Pavlik as far as his champion status goes. He knocked out a contender, making him the primary contender. No way is he the champion.

Secondly, he hasn't lost. We may have thought he did, we may have thought him to look lackluster but he hasn't lost. And he hasn't been involved in any blatant robberies. He's gotten the ball to bounce his way in close fights. But he hasn't lost so therefore, he is still champion.
Good points.

I'm not saying he's not the champ...I aint in denial...but I just don't feel that he has earned it.

Hopkins earned his rights & he defended them without question. While most everyone hated the man while he reigned...there wasn't a legitamately questionable decision out there.

Ugly or not...Hopkins won.