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I was really close on my Bobpac-Soto prediction . I predicted Soto by mid-round KO.

Bobby rocked Soto twice in 4th round. Manny is a vicious finisher, Bobby's NOT.

With Soto's lack of lateral footwork, less head movements, and weak chin... he would make a great prey for Pac.

I don't think Soto will last 6 rounds with Manny.
WOAH!! Lets not hug on to Manny too much. He's a wonderful fighter,someone whom I've defended many many times BUT he is flawed and can be beaten. To describe Soto's chin as weak is very poor judgement. He took a haymaker which would have staggered ALOT of fighters and rather than hold on,fought back.He also showed his chin in the Juarez match in which Rocky landed that super(and his ONLY good punch ) left hook and Soto took it. He has decent lateral movement and his defence was good apart from those 2 moments.

I'd favour Manny but I think Soto has the tools to beat him,it's his lapses in concentration which would be his problem.
Are you actually comparing Pac/Juarez power punching?

Juarez can't even carry MAB's spit bucket.

I like Soto. He's very humble and he reminds me of young Erik Morales. And we all know that EM beat Pac.

But Soto haven't been in real war yet. Pac is a pressure fighter and Soto will just be overwhelm.

You need to be reminded that both Medgoen Singsurat & Rustico Torrecampo KTFO of your PACDEAR. YES I am comparing Juarez power not velocity to Pac. Also MAB barely escaped Juarez twice. Ans not being in a war does not mean the inability to excel in one. The funniest thing are the references to Soto being humble as if he would be lesser if he were saying he would KNTFO Pac. Pac man is also humble and I like him for that. It is his followers that lack personal success, class and in some instances common sense. That is why they post as if you were talking about their mama.
Oh that memory lane again. "I have to base my aguements now on Pac's defeat to win the debate". LOL!

FYI, Pac's defeats was from 1995-96 when could no longer make 106 and 112 as young skinny teen-ager. He got KOed both from body shots.

You didn't have to throw the "mama" joke as personal insult.

...peace
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To further solidify my post in lacking common sense look at your reference to: "win the debate" I was unaware that this was a win, win win post situation. I was under the belief that this was just a room for expression of personal belief in the field of boxing.
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I was really close on my Bobpac-Soto prediction . I predicted Soto by mid-round KO.

Bobby rocked Soto twice in 4th round. Manny is a vicious finisher, Bobby's NOT.

With Soto's lack of lateral footwork, less head movements, and weak chin... he would make a great prey for Pac.

I don't think Soto will last 6 rounds with Manny.
WOAH!! Lets not hug on to Manny too much. He's a wonderful fighter,someone whom I've defended many many times BUT he is flawed and can be beaten. To describe Soto's chin as weak is very poor judgement. He took a haymaker which would have staggered ALOT of fighters and rather than hold on,fought back.He also showed his chin in the Juarez match in which Rocky landed that super(and his ONLY good punch ) left hook and Soto took it. He has decent lateral movement and his defence was good apart from those 2 moments.

I'd favour Manny but I think Soto has the tools to beat him,it's his lapses in concentration which would be his problem.
Are you actually comparing Pac/Juarez power punching?

Juarez can't even carry MAB's spit bucket.

I like Soto. He's very humble and he reminds me of young Erik Morales. And we all know that EM beat Pac.

But Soto haven't been in real war yet. Pac is a pressure fighter and Soto will just be overwhelm.

You need to be reminded that both Medgoen Singsurat & Rustico Torrecampo KTFO of your PACDEAR. YES I am comparing Juarez power not velocity to Pac. Also MAB barely escaped Juarez twice. Ans not being in a war does not mean the inability to excel in one. The funniest thing are the references to Soto being humble as if he would be lesser if he were saying he would KNTFO Pac. Pac man is also humble and I like him for that. It is his followers that lack personal success, class and in some instances common sense. That is why they post as if you were talking about their mama.
Oh that memory lane again. "I have to base my aguements now on Pac's defeat to win the debate". LOL!

FYI, Pac's defeats was from 1995-96 when could no longer make 106 and 112 as young skinny teen-ager. He got KOed both from body shots. - Sorry just not valid enough reasons. Why are Pacmans excuse more valid than those of MAB in his loss to Pac Man? A plate in head revealed to sanctioning committee and in the press, camp interrupted due to severe brush fires, last minute managerial changes.. Seems these are much more valid than not being able to woof down a steak as a teenager and absorb body shots. Now he has money and still has a problem with body shots.
Pac destroyed MAB convincingly in front of his crowd fyi. I thought MAB had superb team and always have plan B for everything.

And money has something to do with body shots now? I don't think the more money you have, the lesser body hit you will receive. Money has nothing to do with it my brother.

Did somebody KOed Pac by body shot in his prime lately? Really?... who knocked him out?

Oops! I must have missed that one.

The fact that you do not live in Los Angeles only shows that you are unaware of the caos during MAB camp prior to the Pac fight. He had just left his promoter to join GBP in anger he disclosed to the public and press that MAB had a metal plate in his head in hopes that it would cancel the fight. In addition there were severe brush fires that forced people indoors for close to a week due to ashes floating about in the air @ 200 mile radius and in the centered where MAB was training. I live 70 miles away and my cars were covered with residue. I addition the sanctioning body deeply investigated the claims leaving MAB in Limbo and in my estimation MAB under estimated his opponent. So unless you know all the variables stop claiming to have any boxing wit, saavy or anything else.


FYI Soto does not have a weak chin
More proof of the fires disrupting MAB camp prior to PAC fight :http://www.talkingproud.us/Firefighter110203.html

How about you Pac fans start offering valid excuses with facts rather than hot air. And Cotto and Pac man are not upholding boxing only chat rooms filled with Cotto Salamis and PAC Fans.
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Pac got KTFO twice in his early days NO EXCUSES. But he learned from his mistakes and kept succeeding (p4p best, ring mag foty, boxers writter assc. foty, and many more awards)

Why can't you accept the fact that Pac raped your boy Barrera in front of his crowd.

Sssheeezzz! No more excuses please.