If joe fought Tua in the condition he was in, in the first fight against ALI, Frazier to win by KO, in his later years by TKO,Joe allways gave 100%, in the first ALI fight it was [smoking] Joes night, [smoking]and he could have beat any fighter that night,Tua would have crumbled under the pressure,and that left hook that put ALI down and broke his jaw, would KO TUA,