Difference was Manfredo was a small fight,maybe he did not take care of his hands as well as he did for the Lacy fight and you miss the point,it's not a given that he will break his hands. He may do,he may not. I understand people berating Joe for his resume but not for his skill.

Skilled,boxer southpaws who throw over 600 punches a fight are stylistic nightmares for anyone. Let's see how Pavlik does v a boxer first before we say he could maul Calzaghe. Alot of people were making the same mistake with Lacy-JC.

However,I really like Pavlik so first I want to see him beat JT! And don't misunderstand,I'd be rooting for neither him nor JC,all I am saying is,dont' dismiss JC so easily.