Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Quote Originally Posted by Preme
Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Quote Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
so he had 1 close fight in 43 everyone has an off nite, i think you'll agree
Its because Calzaghe hasn't fought anyone really of any threat to him.
On more than one ocasion when calzaghe got in the ring he was getting in the ring with a guy who could KO him, was the next big thing, im not just talking about lacy, veik shiek, there were quite a few guys who were supposed to be real good fighters, or the second coming of some other great, its just the manner in which calzaghe handled them all that they become nothing ness.

I'm curious ice, i know your quit young, but how much of Calzaghes career have you followed? i know your seen most/all of his fights, but thats not following a career, you can't tell anything about the hype or thoughts of the guys who were getting in the ring with him by watching downloads or some dvd mate...

You talk alot about the reid fight as well, about how it was close how he got caught by the right.. you do know that was a very very young champion? he wa slike 24ish? you expected him to be the complete package then or sumin?
Right Preme i'll give you my two cents on this what you said some of it is true but after the Calzaghe fights Sheika and Veit proved they wern't top level and they never have been really to be honest i have followed him for a while as for the Reid fight he was the complete package then but i think he broke his hand didn't he ?? and Reid made it tough and i mean very tough i have noticed Calzaghe gets caught with the right hands and i also noticed in his earlier career he used be alot more of a powerful puncher and i don't think he has koed anyone in ages Calzaghe has good skills i don't think anyone denys that not even Calzaghe haters i Don't think its all his fault big fights never happened but Calzaghe wasn't exactly trying to get big fights either but i also think Calzaghe has been unlucky he hasn't had the competition of Benn Eubank Watsn Collins Jones ect with Calzaghes talent he should of got alot further in his career by now i feel sorry for us boxing fans that a talented guy like Calzaghe hasn't fought the elite.
you said going into fights tho - and there were about 5 or 6 fights calzaghe went into where the other guy was considerd to be pretty dangerous, or coming from some good hype...

no way was calzaghe at 24 the complete package when he fought reid lol, yeah he fought half the fight with a broken hand - but he has imrpoved vastly since then...

Ice, there were only 2 other fights out there Joe could of really fought and gotten credit for, Hopkins and RJJ, and there was nothing more he could of done than he already did to try and get them in the ring.

Pavilks stands almost no chance in the ring with calzaghe, he is so so slow even with a bust hand i would pick calzaghe to out point pavilk, he is easy as hell to hit and his speed is so bad he would barly lay a glove on calzaghe or kessler for that matter. Pavilk is an averge boxer who can pack a punch.