Quote Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Isn't a Journeyman was a boxer who had his own personal career (usually blue collar) and boxed on the side? 
As opposed to the Ray Leonards, Jones Jrs who live only for professional boxing or their main source of money comes from boxing and they are good enough to make a living out of it?

I always wanted a journeyman to whup a "premier boxer."  Happens rarely.  Always thought it was an sort of an insult to label a man a "journeyman" too.  They always get treated as third rate in the boxing world.  I have a lot of respect for journeyman... hard working men.
There's many different definitions of journeymen. To some they are just fighters whose records are really really bad. To others they are fighters who are just below contender status and have shown that they dont have what it takes to excel at the next level (this is mine). Others might use your definition but the term journeymen comes from colonial times. A journeyman was a guy learning a craft (blacksmith, etc.) whose skills were higher than that of an apprentice but they weren't quite a master of the craft (Masters could then leave the guy they were learning under and open up their own shop but in the meantime, journeymen would actually get paid for the work they did under the master). Basically a journeymen is a guy who isn't a total bum but hes not exactly championship challenging material so the term is an accurate one.

Only reason i know this is because in 3rd grade (maybe 5th) i was supposed to read a book about colonial times (it wasn't about the american revolution so i wasn't interested) it was called Johnny Tremaine or some shit, Anyway thats all i gathered from the book because thats the only thing i remember reading (and by reading i mean seeing the teacher review the book during class) about it. We were supposed to write down some SAT style writing prompts but i said the hell with that.