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As far as i'm concerned, its almost football season. I'm pretty sure you know who's gonna be my number 1 but i dare you to prove otherwise.

1. Brett Favre (Green Bay)- Most consecutive starts among quarterbacks (the second most injury prone position in the sport). Future owner of every passing (and just about everything else) record thats measurable. He's a lot more mobile than people give him credit for. He's also pretty high up there on the 4th quarter comebacks list. He's got the stats, the ring, and the intangibles that make a great quarterback. He's the most untechnically sound qb that nobody shows films of when teaching young qb's how to play and takes more risks than any other qb and they usually pay off.

2. John Elway (Denver)- All time most sacked quarterback in nfl history 512 if thats not toughness i dunno what is. When you couple that with his stats, the fact that hes the all time leader in 4th quarter comebacks, and the lack of talent he had around him, you have to put him high on the list especially after his storybook ending to his career.

3. Joe Montana (San Fransico)- Had his fair share of 4th quarter comebacks and was the best qb under pressure. 16-7 in the playoffs... There's some teams that haven't won 16 playoff games yet. Not a big armed qb who single handedly redefined what the quarterback position was about. He took importance off of power and emphasized accuracy and technique.

4. Dan Marino (Miami)- Put up stats like you wouldn't believe and if he had a ring, he'd be #1 without question.

Here's a spot that troubles alot of people. Bradshaw, Aikman, Kelly, Young, and Starr are the usual suspects here because they were more or less dynasty qb's but im gonna go out of the box:

5. Rich Gannon (Oakland and many other places)- Now here's a guy who could do it all. Side Arm, OverHand, w/e the third thing is called. If he was put in a west coast offense set earlier, He'd of been unbelieveable. Now this is an odd pick for most because he didn't win alot for most of his career and only had a few good years once he was in oakland. He got beat in a superbowl because the opposing teams coach basically knew his playbook and what he was gonna do before he did it. If you don't think he was a great qb, look at what oakland turned into once he left. They struggle to win any games let alone playoff games. They went from one of the best teams to the absolute worse team. The sign of a great qb is how hard he is to replace. They haven't done it yet in Denver, Miami, Oakland, San Fransico, Dallas, or Buffalo and Green Bay is gonna be facing that same problem soon enough.
Rich Gannon over Tom Brady? That was a joke, right?

Other than Gannon, that's decent list of post 1980 QB's, and it's hard to rate quarterbacks of previous era's against post 1980's qbs. To make my top 5, in no particular order, I would remove Gannon, obviously, and and Tom Brady. Then I would remove Dan Marino, and add Manning, because he never won it all, as great as he was. It might be unfair, and he would on my top six, but he gets penalized for never winning the big one.

If I had to pick one, I would have to give it to Elway and Montana. I can't pick just one. Elway and Montana tie for number one in my book. Once Brady wins his next Superbowl, this year, he'll make the leap take over first place by himself.

Brady doesn't belong in the top 20 because hes overrated to no end and as a matter of fact one of brady's superbowl rings should belong to gannon. And i really hope putting manning over marino was a joke. If marino ran into a team with a quarterback as terrible as rex grossman i'm sure he'd have a ring too. Only reason peyton even made it to the superbowl is because tom brady can't work his "magic" when its actually up to him to win the game (when they are down by more than 3).

Gannon might not of had the success or stats of other greats but he was one of the most solid pure pocket qb's of all time. He threw it overhand, Sidearm, and a third way which i have no idea what its called. Brady throws screen passes and puts up laughable stats. One of his best seasons is him completing 60% of his passes with 24 tds and 12 ints. A 24 td season isn't a superstar qb by anymeans, thats a guy that manages a game. He doesn't have an amazingly strong arm, and if the nfl management wouldn't of pulled for the patriots to win, gannon would have bradys first ring and there would be no "Dynasty" talks.