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This is the reason I made the thread. I haven't claimed anything corrupt other than what I saw from the fight linked to in this thread. I have merely asked for opinions from people who have followed Kameda more than I have.
I see what your saying and you are getting opinions.

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I have yet to see the Landaeta fight, hopefully the torrent I requested from another site will be uploaded today.
Well I can certainly tell you that try to watch it and form your own opinion from that... I hope you get a chance to see it.
It's definetly a good scrap....

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By manufacture I was referring to his hype machine. It seems to me, and many other Japanese fans, that Kameda is being made into a megastar already. Other Japanese fighters aren't given this same treatment, at least on this level, from what I understand. He is a 20 year old fighter who beat no one in title contention, earned a title shot, won a controversial decisiona nd then won the rematch in his first title defense. He then moved up in weight and fought a 5-1 fighter. He is someone to keep an eye out for, but at this point, it seems they are already trying to cash in on his potential.
Well that happens EVERYWHERE not just Japan.... Do the names Grant, Bojado, JCC Jr. and Khan ring a bell. They were all being hyped or are being hyped to be megastars.
Nobuo Nashiro(sp?) who beat Castillo was also being hyped I personally never believed the hype (You remember VD we had that talk about him) I knew Nobuo would loose against a World Class fighter and if you go to the Prediction Board and dig through the picks on the week that he fought Munoz I knew he would loose. I think Koki is getting the same treatment Nobuo got, the same treatment Kono and Niida are getting now.
Think, who had Nobuo beaten to get a shot at Castillo? With something like 9 fights

As I've said before to others here in the lower weight classes since early on it's very common to get title shots early on I mean look through the records and you can see this from 30 years ago it's not just now....


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Does this somehow make it legal? Boxing has rules for an abundance of reasons. There was a sequence in the linked video where Kameda landed a 3 punch combination below his opponents beltline with each one being delivered lower and with more force. He pushed the opponent around the ring, nails him with a punishing low blow, the ref didn't say one thing.
No not all.... I was just saying that things slip bye sometimes after how many Golota low blows to Bowe did the ref. finally catch on? I think it was after like 4 low blows.... Just recently we saw a ref. miss a knockdown in the JMM vs. MAB fight... I'm not saying it's right I'm saying things happen sometimes....


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I saw that, what is your point? Some fans are bound to dislike a fighter who is as popular as Kameda is already. Not everyone can be pleased, no matter what.
My point was that people felt Koki lost and those people happened to be Koki fans..... Sometimes I type things just to point things out not necessairly directed at you just thoughts or facts that come to mind.

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Yes, the posted above obviously doesn't know what the word avid means.
Nah! he does if you stick around long enough you'll see that he does.



I remember the Nobuo conversation. And I remember you weren't sold on him either. But that doesn't mean Nobuo wasn't (is) a good fighter. He lost to Alexander Munoz. A world class fighter himself. So there is no shame in that. While Nobuo did nothing to earn his title shot. Kameda did. He beat Saman Sorjaturong and Noel Arambulet for it. Sorjaturong might of been washed up. But Noel Arambulet wasn't. And Kameda became the first man to stop Noel Arambulet. So I think Kameda earned a title shot.