Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
Come on lyle, the only person worth a damn left in this division is vitali and thats because hes the only one that fought another heavyweight that was ever any good in lewis. Byrd is a blown up crusierweight who shouldn't be called a 2 time champ because vitali handed him the title the first time which he immediately lost and the second time he beat up a washed up holfield only to defend it five times in 4 years and then lose it again. Austin is a guy, who despite having a huge height advantage in his fights, has ended up with several draws (means the guy can't box). Who did calvin brock ever defeat to make him a proven heavyheavy? Timor was an upcoming unproven prospect and Lawrence has NEVER ko'd anybody and he's a HEAVYWEIGHT!. Watch the video, Brock tryed to counter wlad's right hand with a jab.
Hey he was undefeated he fought some decent opposition, he EARNED his title shot and right now you're doing EXACTLY what HBO does and discrediting Wladimir for Brock's lack of talent. He came off the floor to beat the crap out of Jameel McCline. He didn't have the resume of a top teir guy but he earned his shot.

Calvin Brock had a very good but very safety first oriented fight vs Wladimir, he was crafty and hard to hit but there was no doubt Wlad could end it at any time.

You could say the same things about Sam Peter than you can about Calvin Brock and everyone on here will disagree with me but Brock is a good average fighter with heart and an awkward style....he doesn't have Sam Peter's power but he fights in a manner which is just as difficult to cope with.


If Ray Austin can't box what does that say about Sultan Ibragimov?

Punisher you bring up how these guys haven't done anything but honestly find me a guy in the division that CAN pose a threat to Wlad.




What does Wlad have to do to be a credible undisputed champ for you? Get up from a knockdown and win CHECK, beat undefeated fighters CHECK, beat the best CHECK, avenge a loss.....see me on the 7th around 11:00 and I'll check that one off too