Quote Originally Posted by Punisher136
You have to realize its really hard to rate wlad because instead of following a lineage, you have to rate wlad like you rate liston. Liston didn't fight Marciano or any other names (established greats) from his previous era, He had to fight names that came into their own like Patterson.
I do realize that...& I see where you are coming...but I think that you should realize the first 15 or 16 words that you stated.

That being said...you do make a good valid point...you do...& it'd good for debate...so I applaude you sincerely...but I do think that you are being a bit harsh...especially comparing him to Liston.

One thing that does bother me a bit about your post is the thing about the Liston & Wlad comparison. Is it saying more that Wlad fought up & comers & bested them when they were becoming what they were or the fact that he didn't sharpen his teeth on worn talent?

I know that that sounds harsh...but honestly...I think that Wlad does deserve the benefit of the doubt...no matter how many times I've had to give it.

You feel me?