Nice reply mick. i went for mundine in all those fights. He may have beat otke with more experience under his belt too. I am though a bit dissapointed in his recent bout with nievas. While it will ultimately be good for mundine to have a 12 round fight under his belt imagine what people would have said if calzaghe fought nievas for a title. All hell would have broken lose on this forum im sure of that. And for the fact that he didn't stop him too. Nothing against nievas but for a title fight? Please. Im sure people look forward to continued sucess for mundine but he has to be a little smarter to keep real boxing fans giving him the respect he wants.