Is Evan Fields the biggest drug cheat since Ben Johnson

[The Promoter]

What Evidence is everyone "waiting" for?!?!? I suppose only a failed drug test post fight will satisfy anyone...Since Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, Mark McGuire and Even Jose Canseco never "Failed" a drug test, they were clean?!?!? Even though 3 of those 4 admitted using and fooling the system...For every new drug test there is a new drug or way around it, just go to you local powerhouse gym and ask around...

I guess it is more plausible to think that Evander has grown up from 175 to a Natural 219 pounds and that his heart disease was cured by god?

[Punisher136]

I'm sure Lee Haney NEVER used steroids. He won all of his Mr Olympia titles through hard work and great genetics, same as Arnold

Hey now, it wasn't illegal until they made a rule about it.....so Arnold is in the clear IMO....same with McGwire and Canseco, they aren't good people but they didn't break rules until the rules were put in place.

Id think "Against the Law" would imply "against the rules"
What, baseball has to enact a "no shooting people" rule?

Tackling somebody in pads wether they have a ball or not (if not in the nfl only gets you a 15 yard penalty as opposed to several months in jail) on the street is considered assault. Same with hockey, on the street a fight is illegal but in hockey it gets you a 5 minute penalty. There's a fine line.

[Kev]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

I'm sure Lee Haney NEVER used steroids. He won all of his Mr Olympia titles through hard work and great genetics, same as Arnold

Big fan of Arnold, so I watched one of his biography's. Hate to say it but he admitted to steroids.

lol I was being sarcastic, Arnold openly used steroids as did all of them back then. Even more disturbing to me is that most of the top bodybuilders were financed by gay fans and many of them allowed themselves to be wanked off and even bummed for cash from their sponsors.

The seedy part of early bodybuilding that nobody ever talks about

[ross]

From Holyfield being found to have bought hgh we have gone to bodybuilding rent boys, where on earth did you hear that ?

[Trainer Monkey]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...eld/index.html

[Kev]

From Holyfield being found to have bought hgh we have gone to bodybuilding rent boys, where on earth did you hear that ?

It's a well known fact of bodybuilding, especially in the 60's and 70's the majority of top bodybuilders earned their money by 'hustling' that is performing sexual favours for their wealthy gay backers.

It was wealthy homosexuals who bankrolled the entire business. Virtually all the bodybuilders back then engaged in it.

Where do you think all these erotic nude pictures of Arnie or Stallone came from?

Just google bodybuilding and hustling if you don't believe me

[Big_Deuce]

What Evidence is everyone "waiting" for?!?!? I suppose only a failed drug test post fight will satisfy anyone...Since Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, Mark McGuire and Even Jose Canseco never "Failed" a drug test, they were clean?!?!? Even though 3 of those 4 admitted using and fooling the system...For every new drug test there is a new drug or way around it, just go to you local powerhouse gym and ask around...

I guess it is more plausible to think that Evander has grown up from 175 to a Natural 219 pounds and that his heart disease was cured by god?

Actually, barry bonds admitted to using illegal substances saying he didnt know they were steroids that was given to him, just a "cream"
jose canseco admitted and pointed out those who also used, giambi admitted to it, and LOTS MORE to come with this trial stuff gets underway.
so that comparison is poop.....
Just because steroids is out there does not mean holyfield is doing it, did george foreman do it during his comeback?
what, because holyfield is in better shape, he must be?
Ive had enough with people trying to taint a guy with hearsay. Its ridiculous, instead of using ur time to try and bash someone, sit down and use that time to actually watch evander holyfield. from the beginning HW to the current HW and you will see that he is pretty much the same size, and style.

[JT Rock]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

Yea Ross... Not suprised you list nothing but American fighters Those are weighty accusations brought up by a nationalistic, biased hater like you.... You posts are littered with nothing but discredit toward most american fighters.... you have no proof and I for one dont give a shite about your BS... You try to taint one of the finest warriors this sport has ever seen with your rubbish... If he was British or European you would have never brought it up a much deserved to you #43 to be exact... now go get your shinebox clownboy

[Punisher136]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

Yea Ross... Not suprised you list nothing but American fighters Those are weighty accusations brought up by a nationalistic, biased hater like you.... You posts are littered with nothing but discredit toward most american fighters.... you have no proof and I for one dont give a shite about your BS... You try to taint one of the finest warriors this sport has ever seen with your rubbish... If he was British or European you would have never brought it up a much deserved to you ;

lol cc jt

you've been laying the smackdown on people just about daily.

[ICB]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

You make it sound like your saying a fact when your not.

[JT Rock]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

Yea Ross... Not suprised you list nothing but American fighters      Those are weighty accusations brought up by a nationalistic, biased hater like you.... You posts are littered with nothing but discredit toward most american fighters.... you have no proof and I for one dont give a shite about your BS... You try to taint one of the finest warriors this sport has ever seen with your rubbish... If he was British or European you would have never brought it up    a much deserved to you ;

lol cc jt

you've been laying the smackdown on people just about daily.

Honestly man, I dont like to be combative   But to me its all about the principle and seriously if you look at this guys posts there all about denigrating high profile american fighters... I just get passionate about this stuff... I mean if he put together a well informed argument based on FACT.... Ben Johnson tested positive for Roids Evander DIDNT... FACT!!!!  now if his post brought up worldwide suspicion and facts that would implicate fighters from different regions and a strong need for testing in our sport or something to that effect,  dickweed uses this thread to grandstand hate towards high profile former American champs and take a cheap shot at Evander Holyfield...  

#173 back to you  

[ICB]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

Yea Ross... Not suprised you list nothing but American fighters Those are weighty accusations brought up by a nationalistic, biased hater like you.... You posts are littered with nothing but discredit toward most american fighters.... you have no proof and I for one dont give a shite about your BS... You try to taint one of the finest warriors this sport has ever seen with your rubbish... If he was British or European you would have never brought it up a much deserved to you ;

lol cc jt

you've been laying the smackdown on people just about daily.

Honestly man, I dont like to be combative But to me its all about the principle and seriously if you look at this guys posts there all about denigrating high profile american fighters... I just get passionate about this stuff... I mean if he put together a well informed argument based on FACT.... Ben Johnson tested positive for Roids Evander DIDNT... FACT!!!! now if his post brought up worldwide suspicion and facts that would implicate fighters from different regions and a strong need for testing in our sport or something to that effect, dickweed uses this thread to grandstand hate towards high profile former American champs and take a cheap shot at Evander Holyfield...

#173 back to you

JT i don't understand some people is it so hard to believe that a boxer had heart and guts of Holyfield he has been in so many exciting fights got through so many hurdles that even i didn't think he could do i love watching Holyfield fight for someone to show how much they love the sport when he fights gives me goosebumps it really does he truly is a warrior of boxing and i hope the best for him.

[Lords Gym]

What Evidence is everyone "waiting" for?!?!? I suppose only a failed drug test post fight will satisfy anyone...Since Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, Mark McGuire and Even Jose Canseco never "Failed" a drug test, they were clean?!?!? Even though 3 of those 4 admitted using and fooling the system...For every new drug test there is a new drug or way around it, just go to you local powerhouse gym and ask around...

I guess it is more plausible to think that Evander has grown up from 175 to a Natural 219 pounds and that his heart disease was cured by god?

I never heard Evander say he did any usage . He has denied the accusation 100% . Test are administered after the matches and he's always come up clean. that’s what I go on "Facts". Assumptions are a fuck all ! Give me the facts !

“believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see“. It’s a good rule to live by

[JT Rock]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

Yea Ross... Not suprised you list nothing but American fighters      Those are weighty accusations brought up by a nationalistic, biased hater like you.... You posts are littered with nothing but discredit toward most american fighters.... you have no proof and I for one dont give a shite about your BS... You try to taint one of the finest warriors this sport has ever seen with your rubbish... If he was British or European you would have never brought it up    a much deserved to you ;

lol cc jt

you've been laying the smackdown on people just about daily.

Honestly man, I dont like to be combative   But to me its all about the principle and seriously if you look at this guys posts there all about denigrating high profile american fighters... I just get passionate about this stuff... I mean if he put together a well informed argument based on FACT.... Ben Johnson tested positive for Roids Evander DIDNT... FACT!!!!  now if his post brought up worldwide suspicion and facts that would implicate fighters from different regions and a strong need for testing in our sport or something to that effect,  dickweed uses this thread to grandstand hate towards high profile former American champs and take a cheap shot at Evander Holyfield...  

#173 back to you  

JT i don't understand some people is it so hard to believe that a boxer had heart and guts of Holyfield he has been in so many exciting fights got through so many hurdles that even i didn't think he could do i love watching Holyfield fight for someone to show how much they love the sport when he fights gives me goosebumps it really does he truly is a warrior of boxing and i hope the best for him.

#1085    Thats why its all unsubtantiated Horseshit... Instead of giving the man credit, you bring up some 1/2 baked story that appeared in the press 3 months ago and nothing has come about it    Like I said typical Ross

[Big_Deuce]

god i love the smell of SMACKDOWN CC's in the morning..
cc to ice and jt