Is Evan Fields the biggest drug cheat since Ben Johnson

[ross]

but we now have to reconsider just how great he was and how much of his fitness at 44 can be attributed to drugs, yes he works hard but the drugs would allow him to

[Kev]

Well I don't want to sound completely cyncical here but I believe that in EVERY field of sport, business and life in general EVERYBODY does illegal, underhand, forbidden things to stay ahead or to get ahead.

Evander probably has taken stuff during his career as I am sure has virtually every other pro boxer and professional athlete in the world ever.

I'm sure Princess Diana probably took cocaine, as have her two sons.

Why do we always throw up our arms in mock shock and disbelief when people are accused of doing something?

I've never met a person who wasn't doing something that could be classed as either illegal, unethical or against the rules of their organisation or empoloyer.

The ones we hear about are the people who get caught, but I'm fairly certain that everyone who isn't caught is guilty too.

I'm not trying to sound like everybody is corrupt here, it's just that you cannot succeed in life if you play totally by the rules and never do anything wrong ever.

Show me a 100% sinless man and I gurantee he will be a complete sucker.

[ICB]

Ross, I have gone to great lengths to read through your posts and not only are you very knowledgable on boxing but the fighters you mentioned were all infact involved in steroid scandal, I also searched that and found you to be 100% correct, cc to you big boy......gotta go, the special needs school bus is here

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently

You make it sound like your saying a fact when your not.

Well the story that trainer monkey posted a link to proves that what you have highlighted in bold for me is in fact, fact

No it doesn't its an opinion plus Holyfield being accused its not a fact.

[pacdog]

Some of you guys really show ignorance here... you doubted that arnold wa son steroids? you cant compete in pro body building without them and with the stuff they have access today pro bodybuilders look almos tinhuman thats the diffrence between natural and roids theres no comparison, go to a natural bodybuilding small venue youll see guys in awesome shape I wen to one and there was a an ass!!!hole there on jiice the whole crowed booed he looked totally out of place, you canty compete in bodybuilding of all sports without them..

[pacdog]

Show me a 100% sinless man and I gurantee he will be a complete sucker. Its actually a sighn of weakness that people have to bend the rules when you can win while someone is cheating its all the more significant you feel your opponent is a mental weakling

[Kev]

Some of you guys really show ignorance here... you doubted that arnold wa son steroids? you cant compete in pro body building without them and with the stuff they have access today pro bodybuilders look almos tinhuman thats the diffrence between natural and roids theres no comparison, go to a natural bodybuilding small venue youll see guys in awesome shape I wen to one and there was a an a**!!!hole there on jiice the whole crowed booed he looked totally out of place, you canty compete in bodybuilding of all sports without them..

Maybe you should read posts properly before commenting as the Arnold postings were clearly meant to be sarcastic

I expect virtually ever professional athlete has taken some form of banned substance in their lives just as every person who has ever lived has done something illegal to get by.

As I said before show me 100% sinless man and I'll show you a complete sucker.

[bigragu]

Roids and HGH are totally different substances
And yes,Evander has been named on a probe for mail order HGH
Deal with it

RJJ used riods?.....as far as Evander goes you don't have to be 230+ to use roids....

[Kev]

Show me a 100% sinless man and I gurantee he will be a complete sucker. Its actually a sighn of weakness that people have to bend the rules when you can win while someone is cheating its all the more significant you feel your opponent is a mental weakling

The only ones who ain't 'cheating' usually thank God for all of their victories which imo is an even bigger form of 'cheating'.

Surely having the supreme creator of the entire universe in your corner is more of an aid than a few chemicals.......

[pacdog]

If your truly not cheating Im sorry to say like the gentleman above stated you need some help as the world is corrupt and some people see god as the equalizer, speak out agains tthings that are wrong and i defnetly see why people invoke god... not saying god gives you victory but he enables u to do your best.. Dont quite get you comment, most peoples loyality lie in deception if your victory is in deception its a sham look at flo jo....

[BrooklyniteQueen]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

Jones Jr was never "found out" you don't know the story do you?

They take two tests for steroids its called and a test and a b test.

Roy's a test was positive but it was very little, however Roy said he never took steroids and agreed to take a b test to prove he didnt. And the B test was negative

[pacdog]

again ignorance prevails here you cand ebate hour upon hour on whether holy, roy jones did roids or other drugs the bottom line is you can cycle on and off in time without them showing up you still reover faster and are stronger thats the secret to 45 year old pitches, mma guys who are competive recoverey

[pacdog]

there is no so thing as a sinlessman thats true I have to say I have more respect for the man that tries though... to me this is why professinal sports has become a joke the nba is an absolute farce now you coudnt pay me to watch these guys run up and down the court in a regular season game... athletes in some sports are high payed and incredibly ordinary,, when you say sucker you mean stupid, like I said there is nothing more satysifing than beaten a man who has cheated with an advantage and you beat him any way... to me the indivdual is now a weakiling a child...

[bigragu]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

Jones Jr was never "found out" you don't know the story do you?

They take two tests for steroids its called and a test and a b test.

Roy's a test was positive but it was very little, however Roy said he never took steroids and agreed to take a b test to prove he didnt. And the B test was negative

I didn't think RJJ did roids......

[pacdog]

I really dont know but his faces especially in the ruiz fight showed every symptom of roid/ hgh, but who knows... like I said most athletes use em.. many athletes are dying in their late 50's 60's
the light that shines twice as bright burns half as long your body is overworked.

[amat]

It has been proved that Holyfield bought human growth hormone and testosterone recently but you have to cast a suspicious eye over his relationship with Lee Haney while he was trying to become a heavyweight, I believe evander has unscrupulously used religion to blindside the public to his misdemeanours.

Its about time every single fighter was tested as its becoming more frequent that top fighters are getting found out, Jones jr, Mosely, Toneym and Holyfield

Jones Jr was never "found out" you don't know the story do you?

They take two tests for steroids its called and a test and a b test.

Roy's a test was positive but it was very little, however Roy said he never took steroids and agreed to take a b test to prove he didnt. And the B test was negative

I haven't heard anything about that.

The fact that Roy tested positive for steroids did not come out for like 4 years when Richard Hall said it in an interview. Roy never took a second test, he took one test, tested positive as did Richard Hall and then when the fight was going to be declared a No Contest, he had lawyers fight that because Indiana had no drug testing policy.

This all came out like 3 years ago, when it would have been far to late for a second test to have been taken. Roy didn't fight it at all, I have a Ring Magazine article about it and I'm sure there is plenty about it online.

Jones blamed the whole thing on Ripped Fuel.