Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
.....also I hate Floyd Mayweather Jr....but he doesn't make me hate boxing.....you just can't be a fan of everyone.



If you want to put the "crazies" in their place be honest with them and give some good hard facts....bringing up old losses isn't enough for me to consider your point.


Facts are Wladimir hasn't beaten another great fighter in his prime but there are no greats out there for him to beat so he has to unify and retire with the title...then he could be great but until he does it he's just another very good heavyweight
very well put Lyle.

I'm with yee on this one.
Me thinks Wladdy is the best Heavy around.
But he still has some wins to go by before people can consider him with the rest of the gang.

His biggest issue here like you pointed out is whos the biggest name out there for him that can solidify his career?

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