Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds
On a different note, whats the big deal with unifying the titles? The ABC Org's are such a joke and in my opinion are one of the biggest pariahs in boxing. Yes I'd like to see him fight Ibragimov/Maskaev/Chagaev, but that has nothing to do with them being a belt holders. The only belt and rating system that I respect is the Ring's. How long was Lennox actually an undisputed champ? The fans know who THE champ is instead of just a champ.
If you put them all under the same guy they actually mean something. You usually have to beat other champions to get them so that signifies that you have fought the best (the ring belt signifies this too as it can only be won or lost in a fight between the top 3 ranked heavyweights). The close fans know who the champs are but its hard toe xplain to somebody who just watches and follows it here and there.

Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds
Punisher just b/c Jackson wasn't a household name in the US, doesn't mean he wasn't known to the bulk of MMA fans. Hell almost no MMA fighters were mentioned in mainstream US media till the last 1-2 years. Jackson was HUGE in Pride for years. He has been in a number of the most memorable fights in Pride history. The fact that Chuck has been out of the public eye after a big loss is supposed to mean what? I think thats pretty much par for the field with any boxer/fighter that loses a big fight. The fact is that I haven't seen a single MMA vs Boxing thread in weeks (and I haven't missed them), but you perpetuate the animosity by antagonizing MMA fans with you unobjective rants. We get it dude, you don't like the sport and think boxings better and your welcome to your opinion, but stop suggesting that its anything other than your subjective opinion and personal choice of sports entertainment.
I'm not gonna lie to you i do hate it and i'm not trying to beat around the bush when it comes to that. I feel its very sloppy and its just a watered down street fight. Again i'll say it may be labeled as mixed "martial arts" but it takes places under rules that are different from any style they might have trained in. It takes place under watered down street fight rules regardless of what styles they've trained in. The prestige of the various styles they've trained in is devalued when you throw them all together and say "just about anything goes". It was originally founded to see what styles of combat would work best in real life combat situations (street fights) and they got their answer. There was no point in making it a sport unless you're just keeping them around to show the initial findings were right and in order to do that you'd have to have as close to a street fight situation as possible. That being said...

You and me deal with two different types of people when it comes to mma. You deal with the people who have followed it from its roots and actually know something about. I have to deal with people who don't know shit about anything. You don't have the hear people say "Liddel's the toughest man on the planet" Ok why? "He ko'd some people" . They don't know shit about submissions technique or anything they just know its a fight. I actually didn't have a problem with mma until it went mainstream and i had to hear about it from people (these people i refer to don't know anything about either sport for the record and i don't expect them to be accurate representations of the sports fan base majority). I had to hear stuff about my favorite boxers being bums because they didn't fight in mma.

I'll admit they are probably a huge misrepresentation of the fan base as a whole but thats the people i deal with, not the educated ones.