Quote Originally Posted by Lionheart Lacy
no fighter has used the philly shell defense like James Toney and at the highest level and against the most opponents, truly the most effective boxing style however it isnt very crowd pleasing if the other guy is a boxer style , so being ppv is tough. watch fights of toney against holyfield and barkley where he schools em both with poetic efficiency, and at the same time he is busting em up pretty badly, the thudding from his punches that landed on holydfield was amazing. them fights sell.

but not everyone is a come forward type of fighter.
I'd say Mayweather and Bhop use it better than Toney. The reason Toney has looked so good in recent years is that's he moved up to the heavyweight division where most of them can't box for S***.

Watch his fights in the lower ranks and he sure didn't look so slick. Pound for pound and prime for prime Floyd and Hopkins would completely outbox Toney. Not saying Toney would get dominated in those fights, but he'd be looking to wear them out and knock them out in the late rounds a la Michael Nunn cos he sure as hell wouldn't beat either of them on points.