it didnt look like fat if you get me though, if you look at danny williams he is carrying extra weight but it doesent look like "fat" a few people i have not seen for a while asked me if id stopped going to the gym because of how much "smaller" i was when in truth its just fat i have dropped i have gone from a 36'waist 44'chest and 17'biceps down to 30'waist 42'chest and 15'biceps sounds above average but i am 6foot 5/6 foot 6, so it doesnt look that big