I have yet to see the Siaca fight but the Ottke fght was his 11th pro fight,he was easily beating Ottke.And he had a limited or no amatuer career(I'm not sure which because I think I read Mundine came to boxing from football) which makes his accomplishments even more outstanding.

He also put up a great fight v Kessler,I had Kessler winning by 3 but again,Mundine gave him his toughest fight. How can Mundine be behind Froch if he's fought and beaten better fighters than him and gave a fringe P4P guy by far his toughest fight?

I'm not a nuthugger but I'm not blind to Mundine's skills either. His handspeed is sensational and that is with single punches and combinations. He has a solid jab,a superb right hand and a great left hook to the body. He can fight inside and out. He can counter and I can only think of 2/3 fighters who have a better shoulder roll than him.

I'd still favour JC and Kess over him but Mundine is improving allllll the time. Question marks over his chin-he took bombs from Kessler.1 handed fighter-watch the SOliman fight. I'd like to see him fight Bute.