How do you rank the welters now?

[CutMeMick]

Possibly Quintana could be in place of Urkal

I put Urkal cause he pushed Cotto further and gave somewhat a better part for himself against Cotto. Maybe it's just my opinion....

I don't understand how Zab is 0-3-1 NC in his last 4 fights and is still ranked in the top 10.
(I guess it's just me who sees it this way?)

C: PBF
Cotto
Baldomir
Williams
SSM
Margarito
Cintron
Clottey
Collazo
Urkal
Gomez - Breaks in the top 10 with his win over Gatti

Well Judah stays up on the list I think because all 3 of those losses were to people that were ranked
higher than him (Champ- PBF, #1 Cotto and #4 Baldomir) I have him at #7 on my list. As I think he needs
to get dethroned by a lower ranked opponent to completely move off.

And for the sake of trying to come to consensus I wanted to use only the fighters on the ring list.
Not that all necessarily will still be there on the next time Ring updates, but so we had a finite list.
It is important not to forget that Judah WAS the unified Welter weight champ, for a year, it's the same
reason Baldomir is still on there.

Who was Baldomir PRIOR to the Zab fight?
Just a stepping stone and he beat Zab right there with that loss Zab dropped big on my list. Add the other 2 loses and the NC and Peace out! hes off my list.
And I understand about the names from that list.
I missed that when I read your post.

I don't understand how Zab is 0-3-1 NC in his last 4 fights and is still ranked in the top 10.
(I guess it's just me who sees it this way?)

C: PBF
Cotto
Baldomir
Williams
SSM
Margarito
Cintron
Clottey
Collazo
Urkal
Gomez - Breaks in the top 10 with his win over Gatti

Judah is still a dangerous fighter, I can see why you think his recent performances could drop him out, but when you take him off the 10th spot in place of Gomez, it really just proves that he's still there because theres noone better. Gomez would not beat anyone in the top 10 including Judah, save for possibly Urkal... I mean do you really feel that Judah wouldn't have massacred Gatti if he fought him?? a win over todays Gatti at 147 doesn't mean much.

Well my list is based on several things not who can beat who or whos more dangerous then who? For me the simple fact that Zabs last 4 fights have not been a plus just flat out drops him. It's just the way I see it.
Gomez just beat Gatti and yes I understand everything on Gatti (I predicted a rd. 9 TKO win for Gomez) but he is a former Champ. he had the track record and he was still ranked at WW so being that Gomez beat him he moves up to #10.
You know as honest as I can be with you I'm not sure what Zab really can and can't do today or tommorrow. But one things for sure I know what hes done in his last performances and thats what matters at least on my list.

I agree with you Mick about Gomez. I'd have replaced Urkal instead of Judah based on Judah hurting Cotto just a bit and Urkal just...

even as I type this I doubt my own words LOL


Yeah, Get rid of Judah and keep Urkal. Urkal took a beating and had to be pulled from the Cotto fight. Judah got flattened.

Well BG, it is your list so you make of it as you feel it's best.