How do you rank the welters now?

[CutMeMick]

Let's throw out the no-contest... he was about 2 seconds from KO-ing that guy. That was just bad luck.

But that's just the case if you start throwing things out or you start cutting ends for one person then you gotta cut them for the rest.
Fact of the matter is it's a NC and thats that.

His 3 losses are to Mayweather, Cotto, and Baldomir. He was very competitive in the losses to Mayweather and Cotto. The Baldomir loss was bad, no getting around that one.

But what means more, beating a bunch of nobodies, or losing in competitive fights to two of the best fighters in the world? I know Zab brings a lot of criticism on himself by the way he acts, but there are not 10 welterweights in the world that I would pick to beat him. That's why he's still a Top 10 welterweight.

But see that's just it, he lost those fights. I understand how he fought I saw the fights and well he did what he had to do to try and win. He lost and that's that. Again I just don't take performances I'm also looking at opposition and results.

I got a question for the people that have Zab rated in the top 10, if he were to loose let's say to Williams next would he still be top 10 cause he faced a champ eventho he lost? Also how many more loses is he allowed until he drops out of the top 10 WW?
I don't think I've ever seen a fighter whos last fights had that end result rated in the top 10 of a div.

For me it's simple, there are not 10 welterweights in the world who I would pick to beat Zab Judah. I would not pick either Urkal or Gomez to beat Zab Judah.
All props to Gomez for beating the corpse of Arturo Gatti, but I think Zab destroys Gatti too, and probably quicker.

Fair enough I see how your rating them, I just see it differently.
I'd give Gomez a really good chance at beating Zab.
I really woould, I don't care what Zabs done to me hes finished I know I'm the only person who sees it this way. I said it a year ago 'Zab Judah the boxer will no longer exsist within a year' well hes very close to disappering IMO.
1 More loss and hes 100% done, I know people still wanna see him fight and I understand why. His talent (when he decided to use it) but I just think hes one of those wasted talent fighters like Ayala Jr, J.L. Lopez, Ibeabuchi and Riddick.
Lots of potential but just didn't keep it together for 1 reason or another.