YOur full of S***. No way can Robinson handle Roy JOnes Jr.. Roy is faster, albeit by a sliver, he is way too big, and strong for Robinson. By the time RObinson was big enough to fight at LHW he was an old man and Roy would have beaten that version of Ray pretty easily. Also how is Lamotta one of the best ever? Who did he beat besides RObinson? He finished 83-19(only 30 by ko which means he didn't have that much power). Zivic was the only "big" name besides Robinson he beat. I think heart and him weighing, at the weigh-in, 16 pounds more than RObinson was the reason he won the fight. Also he was the first middleweight Robinson faced, and he was as tough as nails. But could have he handled the guys his own size like Hopkins, Hagler, Monzon, etc.? No way. Also about Greb, whos actually seen him fight? I doubt most of you have. And he didn't fight at middleweight. IF you go on boxrec whenever it shows his weight it was almost always over 160.


Taeth you make me sick. "BIG NAMES" YOUR NUTS. First of all Marcel Cerdan was a GREAT CHAMPION, BOB MURPHY HAD GREAT POWER,TONY JANIRO WAS 80-15 LAMOTTA BEAT THEM ALL. He would have Lost to hopkins and hagler but would have given monzon trouble see 30 kos in 80 wins is deceiving because he wasnt a Knockout puncher he was a slugger he wore you down similiar to juan diaz does today.Still a top 15 middleweight of all time possibly top ten.you think roy jones would beat sugar ray robinson we arent talking past there prime hear sugar was and Roy is now. See If sugar weighs 160 and roy is 175 he still outpoints him hes the best ever man. Roy jones wouldnt even beat Archie moore or any of the other great light heavys in my eyes he is vastly overrated. Yes he was 157 when he fought maxim and almost won. if he didnt pass out he cruises to a decision and dont forget we only fight 12 rounds now. Little things you arent taking into account that makes me realize you arent thinking b4 you write this. Maxim beat floyd Patterson and Jersey joe walcott true heavyweight robinson stood toe to ttoe with a man who was nearly 20 pounds heavier than he was. YOUR ON CRACK HARRY GREB WAS GREAT MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WATCHED HIM LIVE I DIDNT NEED TO SEE HIM FIGHT (259-21) OH I BET THAT SUX TO RIGHT ROT JONES WOULD PROBABLY KNOCK HIM OUT RIGHT GET OUT OF HERE.YES HE WAS TRULY A SUPERMIDDLEWEIGHT JUST LIKE YOUR BOYFRIEND ROY JONES JR. WHO HE WOULD DISMANTLE AT 168 BUT NOT AT LIGHTHEAVY PROBABLY. IN MODERN DAYS HE WOULD PROBABLY CUT TO MIDDLE DUE TO DIFFERENT WEIGHT CLASSES BUT YOU PROBABLY DONT KNOW THAT EITHER CUS EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'VE SAID DOSENT MAKE SENSE SO THERE YA GO.