Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Quote Originally Posted by Scrap
Silent that was Spot on Lubbers was not very good cc
Ah but Lubbers wasnt the only examples I gave,also tossed out Mac Foster,who had quality wins,and Greg Page,who had the look of a comer

Foster goes 2-4 for the rest of his career,and Page ended up being KO'ed by a guy who was 5-5,let alone decision losses to guys who were barely .500
And these type of career collapses litter the boxing world
Now I also tossed up a record that was more padded then a training bra,in David Bostice,but not all,or even most of these guys have padded records
Round 2. Let's break it down.

Greg Page. Pro debut-June,1979

He was fighting for the USBA belt not even 2 years into his pro career (Feb.1981). A quick ascent IMO.

He wasn't the poster boy for fitness as he was not always in the best of shape.

He has some losses in his record like-- dec.-L vs Witherspoon, dec.-L vs Tony Tubbs, dec.-L vs Berbick, etc... He also had some good lookin wins in there-- TKO-W vs Tillis, dec.-W vs Snipes, KO-W vs Cotzee. Good fighters.

And yes he had 5-5 Mark Wills stop him in 9 rds. And beat him again in 6. All we can do is guess on this fight that is very inconsistent in Page's career. Was he in great shape?--Probably not. What was going on in his personal life?--We'll never know. Maybe he just got beat by a guy that had his #. Lets remember that even though Wills was 5-5 he was a pro, legitamate full sized HW. A far as his record, Wills had never took the easy road in his match ups. Among a bunch of other fighters with good records he fought Bonecrusher, Witherspoon (2x's), (a 32-0) Gary Mason, Page (2x's), Mercer, Jeremy Williams (2x's), (a 22-0) Zeljko Mavrovic, & for goodness sake Wlad Klitschko. Wills was no world beater but he was obviously a hard nosed guy.This is boxing & some guys just have another guy's #. This is a very likely scenario in this case IMO.

You point out that he lost to a guy that was barely .500. I'm assuming your referring to Artis Pendergrass. He was 41 yrs old fighting a 28 yr old Pendergrass. And the scoring suggests that the fight was VERY close (96-97 on one of the cards). Cut him some slack bro. Besides this dec. loss at the ripe age of 41, the only other guy that beat him that had a losing record was Wills (who I addressed already). I am thouroghly convinced that we will never be able to give him (Wills) the credit of how tough he was (I'm convinced). Everybody else that beat him (Page) had a VERY good record (even after he was over 40 yrs old).

10 of his (Page's) losses were after 1989-- he had been a pro fighter for a decade already. 5 of them was after he was 40 yrs old.

IMO this is not a guy that had the wheels fall off. This was a case of a guy that fought good fighters throughout his career. He also fought well past his better days (into his 40's. Over 20 years as a pro). This is as simple as u win some & u lose some.