Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Well Silent assassin bro,what I wrote down was fact,I didn't make anything up.


Form.--- His recent form wasn't so bad IMO against the p4p king.

Well,that's your opinion. I had it 116-112. The rounds Oscar won were the rounds Mayweather did nothing,Mayweather rocked him to his boots twice and beat on Oscar for the last few rounds,9-12 I think.


Weight.---- ODH had never had a problem hitting weight. He didn't fight @ MW because of weight issues. Business $$$ & tryin to add another weightclass belt brought him there.

That point has no relevance. How does a 33 year old big enough to fight at 160 and go back,to 147 and stay effective when he can't fight 12 full rounds at 154? Don't know what your point is there. Being effective at the weight and merely making the weight are 2 totally different things.

Age.--- Not much of an issue IMO. If u put out all the early to mid 30's fighters. Well, u just wouldn't have a whole lot goin on.

Well,if you think Oscar's skills haven't eroded over the years,you seriously should pay more attention to his fights.( "it was ot the night of the jab" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in possibly your biggest fight)


Part time promoter/fighter/etc...--- If u can handle the load then go for it.

Well,he got boxed by Sturm,got KTFO by Hopkins. I don't call that handling the load.

Stamina.--- Cross that bridge when u get there. One day isn't here yet. He's never been known to throw 100+ punches in the 12th round. But he has never collapsed. His cardio is not as nearly as bad as the wrap he gets.

He was just panting heavily and unable to land any effective attacks from round 9 onwards v Mayweather. It has nothing to do with throwing 100 plus punches,he could not mount any kind of attack v Mayweather.


I guess we'll just agree to disagree.
Cmon Gamo I don't even like Oscar but I'm not as harsh as you. Oscar has a great chance at 147 in my opinion. By rights he's almost undefeated as a 147 lb fighter, virtually everyone thinks he beat Trinidad, so only Mosely got a legitmate win over him.

Oscar and Shane are the most durable guys at 147 imo, nobody is knocking Oscar out. Oscar also has no fear of anyone in the division. His fight with Floyd I had Floyd winning by 2 rounds and regardless 116-112 against the best fighter on earth is hardly a poor showing.

Nobody else has ever pushed Floyd harder and a different strategy could even have won that fight for Oscar.

I'll go on record as saying if De La Hoya fights Cotto he hands him his first loss