Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Well Silent assassin bro,what I wrote down was fact,I didn't make anything up.


Form.--- His recent form wasn't so bad IMO against the p4p king.

Well,that's your opinion. I had it 116-112. The rounds Oscar won were the rounds Mayweather did nothing,Mayweather rocked him to his boots twice and beat on Oscar for the last few rounds,9-12 I think.


Weight.---- ODH had never had a problem hitting weight. He didn't fight @ MW because of weight issues. Business $$$ & tryin to add another weightclass belt brought him there.

That point has no relevance. How does a 33 year old big enough to fight at 160 and go back,to 147 and stay effective when he can't fight 12 full rounds at 154? Don't know what your point is there. Being effective at the weight and merely making the weight are 2 totally different things.

Age.--- Not much of an issue IMO. If u put out all the early to mid 30's fighters. Well, u just wouldn't have a whole lot goin on.

Well,if you think Oscar's skills haven't eroded over the years,you seriously should pay more attention to his fights.( "it was ot the night of the jab" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in possibly your biggest fight)


Part time promoter/fighter/etc...--- If u can handle the load then go for it.

Well,he got boxed by Sturm,got KTFO by Hopkins. I don't call that handling the load.

Stamina.--- Cross that bridge when u get there. One day isn't here yet. He's never been known to throw 100+ punches in the 12th round. But he has never collapsed. His cardio is not as nearly as bad as the wrap he gets.

He was just panting heavily and unable to land any effective attacks from round 9 onwards v Mayweather. It has nothing to do with throwing 100 plus punches,he could not mount any kind of attack v Mayweather.


I guess we'll just agree to disagree.
Well I'm glad that u scored it 116-112 Mr. Giampa. And I'm glad PBF got the dec since I had bet on him to win. But the other 2 judges had it 115-113 & 113-115. SD win for PBF. Hardly a blow out. If everyone that PBF would/could beat by that margin should hang'em up then there wouldn't be many people fighting.

What are u getting at when u say making weight & being effective are 2 different things? I guess that u think that Ricky Hatton is big enough to fight at LHW? You're making my point. You say ODH "a guy that's big enough to make MW". Anybody that steps on a scale at 160lbs is a MW. The point is he's NOT big enough to fight at MW. He had enough sense to know this before the Hopkins fight & got a 156lb weight limit. Knowing this he had the ba**s to go test his limitations. His previous fights a MW have nothing to do with how effective of a WW he is. This discussion is about WW ODH, not MW.

The Sturm fight. Get over it. It's in the books. ODH got the W. And B-Hop a big/alltime great MW king beat him. Big deal. Why do u insist on talking about his MW fights? (whether u like it, agree with or not he went 1-1 @MW).

What have u posted that points to him not being able to be a very dangerous guy at WW?

Because YOUR score & not the judges is the one that counts in his MW fight with Sturm? (A fight that he got the W)

Because alltime great B-Hop beat him at MW? (So what)

Because P4P king PBF won a SD against him? (Yeah, that's the end of the road for a guy if that happens.)

So again, what makes u so sure that he can't win at WW?--------Because u just don't like him isn't a real good reason.

Maybe ur the one that should being paying more attention to some relevant details.