GOOD MORNING CUTMEMICK - -- - WONJONGKAM LOSES!!!!

[No Contest]

I dont understand how you could despise someone who looks like Toad from Super Mario

[gyrokai]

Yeah that suprised me as well.....Not that I thought he was great but he had the thing for so long it seemed like.....

Business is picking up for the little fellas...changing of the guard

The surprising thing for me is that he beat Naito twice already once was a 34 second KO in round one.
The second fight was stopped because of Naito's cuts 7th or 8th round can't remember.

Agreed.

Naito just kept fighting until the Japanese Champ got old. haha

I was surprised too. I remember ppl saying this was a "gimme fight" and that the Japanese Champ has been ducking.

Good to shake things up when just months ago that division was unshakable.

[BoomBoom]

Thais makes me happy. Hopefully he retires and wishes he had cashed in while he could have. Congrats to Naito on his decision win, hopefully they wont fight for a fourth time though.

[Violent Demise]

Not to many people feel sorry about him losing. I don't. Naito is a good fighter. He'll fight better competition than Pong did.

[No Contest]

How in the hell did you pick Naito? He got k.o.'d in 34 seconds and stopped by cuts in the second fight, what led you to believe he could win the third match?( I'm asking because I see you picked him in the betting pool)

[CutMeMick]

Topic Merged.

[Galaxy]

What's up with the flyweight division? In the last few months the top 3 guys have all been over thrown! Two in big upsets!

The division is now wide open & things have become quite interesting. I only hope the new comers show more of a willingness to meet each other!

[Violent Demise]

How in the hell did you pick Naito? He got k.o.'d in 34 seconds and stopped by cuts in the second fight, what led you to believe he could win the third match?( I'm asking because I see you picked him in the betting pool)

Easy. I've known about Naito since 2001. He was 18-0 when he went up against fellow prospect Takefumi Sakata (15-0) in a highly anticipated fight in Japan. The winner was suppose to get a shot at the champion. Which was Wonjongkam. The fight was a draw. But Naito was said to have the edge and was always considered the better prospect/fighter. So he got the title shot. And he chocked. He got caught in like 30 something seconds with a punch and it was over. Naito blamed it on inexperience. Considering he was 19-0 and Wonjongkam was 43-2. I excepted his excuse. Naito proceded to go 8-0 with 6 knock outs to earn another shot at Wonjongkam. Naito came out tight in that fight and gave away the first 4 rounds. He finally got on track and took the fight to Wonjongkam. But a head butt caused a cut and he lost when the fight went to the cards. Naito went 3-0 to force a 3rd fight with Wonjongkam. And I had a feeling he was pretty much over the mental hurdle of being knocked out in one round. So I felt if he fought his fight from the beginning than he had a great chance at beating Wonjongkam. And he did.

[No Contest]

Good pick I know the lower weights are pretty big over in Japan, but I dont know hardly any Japanese fighters.

[CutMeMick]

How in the hell did you pick Naito? He got k.o.'d in 34 seconds and stopped by cuts in the second fight, what led you to believe he could win the third match?( I'm asking because I see you picked him in the betting pool)

Easy. I've known about Naito since 2001. He was 18-0 when he went up against fellow prospect Takefumi Sakata (15-0) in a highly anticipated fight in Japan. The winner was suppose to get a shot at the champion. Which was Wonjongkam. The fight was a draw. But Naito was said to have the edge and was always considered the better prospect/fighter. So he got the title shot. And he chocked. He got caught in like 30 something seconds with a punch and it was over. Naito blamed it on inexperience. Considering he was 19-0 and Wonjongkam was 43-2. I excepted his excuse. Naito proceded to go 8-0 with 6 knock outs to earn another shot at Wonjongkam. Naito came out tight in that fight and gave away the first 4 rounds. He finally got on track and took the fight to Wonjongkam. But a head butt caused a cut and he lost when the fight went to the cards. Naito went 3-0 to force a 3rd fight with Wonjongkam. And I had a feeling he was pretty much over the mental hurdle of being knocked out in one round. So I felt if he fought his fight from the beginning than he had a great chance at beating Wonjongkam. And he did.

I have issues when you used the word 'earned' another shot..... and 'forced' a 3rd fight.
I think both you and I can agree that if anyone earned or deserved a shot at PongsaShit it was Arce cause he was the Interim Champ.
Naito kept fighting PongsaShit cause it was the choice of Team PongsaShit not because Naito was earning or forcing anything.
Fwocken Jose even had the urgency to talk shit! about Joe not fighting Kess and saying Joe needed to step up. In that thread I posted that Jose needed to shut the fwock up and worry about his organization/belt holders such as Pongsaklek and the shit that Jose let PongsaShit get away with was just ridiculous. He should be ashamed if he get's any worse I'm gonna have to start comparing the WBC to the IBF in a who's worst talk.

[Violent Demise]

How in the hell did you pick Naito? He got k.o.'d in 34 seconds and stopped by cuts in the second fight, what led you to believe he could win the third match?( I'm asking because I see you picked him in the betting pool)

Easy. I've known about Naito since 2001. He was 18-0 when he went up against fellow prospect Takefumi Sakata (15-0) in a highly anticipated fight in Japan. The winner was suppose to get a shot at the champion. Which was Wonjongkam. The fight was a draw. But Naito was said to have the edge and was always considered the better prospect/fighter. So he got the title shot. And he chocked. He got caught in like 30 something seconds with a punch and it was over. Naito blamed it on inexperience. Considering he was 19-0 and Wonjongkam was 43-2. I excepted his excuse. Naito proceded to go 8-0 with 6 knock outs to earn another shot at Wonjongkam. Naito came out tight in that fight and gave away the first 4 rounds. He finally got on track and took the fight to Wonjongkam. But a head butt caused a cut and he lost when the fight went to the cards. Naito went 3-0 to force a 3rd fight with Wonjongkam. And I had a feeling he was pretty much over the mental hurdle of being knocked out in one round. So I felt if he fought his fight from the beginning than he had a great chance at beating Wonjongkam. And he did.

I have issues when you used the word 'earned' another shot..... and 'forced' a 3rd fight.
I think both you and I can agree that if anyone earned or deserved a shot at PongsaShit it was Arce cause he was the Interim Champ.
Naito kept fighting PongsaShit cause it was the choice of Team PongsaShit not because Naito was earning or forcing anything.
Fwocken Jose even had the urgency to talk shit! about Joe not fighting Kess and saying Joe needed to step up. In that thread I posted that Jose needed to shut the fwock up and worry about his organization/belt holders such as Pongsaklek and the shit that Jose let PongsaShit get away with was just ridiculous. He should be ashamed if he get's any worse I'm gonna have to start comparing the WBC to the IBF in a who's worst talk.

Naito went 8-0 to earn a rematch with Wonjongkam in I think it was 2005. Arce barely moved up to Flyweight that same year. He was fighting at Junior Flyweight before that. So at that time Arce was not more deserving than Naito. As for there 3rd fight? Arce is no longer fighting at Flyweight. So how is he deserving of a title shot at Flyweight? I ain't defending Wonjongkam. He should of fought Arce, Parra and the other big names. All I'm saying is Naito earned his title shots.

[Galaxy]

How in the hell did you pick Naito? He got k.o.'d in 34 seconds and stopped by cuts in the second fight, what led you to believe he could win the third match?( I'm asking because I see you picked him in the betting pool)

Easy. I've known about Naito since 2001. He was 18-0 when he went up against fellow prospect Takefumi Sakata (15-0) in a highly anticipated fight in Japan. The winner was suppose to get a shot at the champion. Which was Wonjongkam. The fight was a draw. But Naito was said to have the edge and was always considered the better prospect/fighter. So he got the title shot. And he chocked. He got caught in like 30 something seconds with a punch and it was over. Naito blamed it on inexperience. Considering he was 19-0 and Wonjongkam was 43-2. I excepted his excuse. Naito proceded to go 8-0 with 6 knock outs to earn another shot at Wonjongkam. Naito came out tight in that fight and gave away the first 4 rounds. He finally got on track and took the fight to Wonjongkam. But a head butt caused a cut and he lost when the fight went to the cards. Naito went 3-0 to force a 3rd fight with Wonjongkam. And I had a feeling he was pretty much over the mental hurdle of being knocked out in one round. So I felt if he fought his fight from the beginning than he had a great chance at beating Wonjongkam. And he did.

I have issues when you used the word 'earned' another shot..... and 'forced' a 3rd fight.
I think both you and I can agree that if anyone earned or deserved a shot at PongsaShit it was Arce cause he was the Interim Champ.
Naito kept fighting PongsaShit cause it was the choice of Team PongsaShit not because Naito was earning or forcing anything.
Fwocken Jose even had the urgency to talk S***! about Joe not fighting Kess and saying Joe needed to step up. In that thread I posted that Jose needed to shut the fwock up and worry about his organization/belt holders such as Pongsaklek and the S*** that Jose let PongsaShit get away with was just ridiculous. He should be ashamed if he get's any worse I'm gonna have to start comparing the WBC to the IBF in a who's worst talk.

Naito went 8-0 to earn a rematch with Wonjongkam in I think it was 2005. Arce barely moved up to Flyweight that same year. He was fighting at Junior Flyweight before that. So at that time Arce was not more deserving than Naito. As for there 3rd fight? Arce is no longer fighting at Flyweight. So how is he deserving of a title shot at Flyweight? I ain't defending Wonjongkam. He should of fought Arce, Parra and the other big names. All I'm saying is Naito earned his title shots.

IMO why Wonjongkam chose to fight a guy he'd already blown out in 34 seconds two more times is beyond me. Naito did not beat a top ten contender after both loses so in my opinion had no business being in the ring with Wonjngkam again. But he made the most of the opportunity & congratulations to him!!!

[CutMeMick]

How in the hell did you pick Naito? He got k.o.'d in 34 seconds and stopped by cuts in the second fight, what led you to believe he could win the third match?( I'm asking because I see you picked him in the betting pool)

Easy. I've known about Naito since 2001. He was 18-0 when he went up against fellow prospect Takefumi Sakata (15-0) in a highly anticipated fight in Japan. The winner was suppose to get a shot at the champion. Which was Wonjongkam. The fight was a draw. But Naito was said to have the edge and was always considered the better prospect/fighter. So he got the title shot. And he chocked. He got caught in like 30 something seconds with a punch and it was over. Naito blamed it on inexperience. Considering he was 19-0 and Wonjongkam was 43-2. I excepted his excuse. Naito proceded to go 8-0 with 6 knock outs to earn another shot at Wonjongkam. Naito came out tight in that fight and gave away the first 4 rounds. He finally got on track and took the fight to Wonjongkam. But a head butt caused a cut and he lost when the fight went to the cards. Naito went 3-0 to force a 3rd fight with Wonjongkam. And I had a feeling he was pretty much over the mental hurdle of being knocked out in one round. So I felt if he fought his fight from the beginning than he had a great chance at beating Wonjongkam. And he did.

I have issues when you used the word 'earned' another shot..... and 'forced' a 3rd fight.
I think both you and I can agree that if anyone earned or deserved a shot at PongsaShit it was Arce cause he was the Interim Champ.
Naito kept fighting PongsaShit cause it was the choice of Team PongsaShit not because Naito was earning or forcing anything.
Fwocken Jose even had the urgency to talk shit! about Joe not fighting Kess and saying Joe needed to step up. In that thread I posted that Jose needed to shut the fwock up and worry about his organization/belt holders such as Pongsaklek and the shit that Jose let PongsaShit get away with was just ridiculous. He should be ashamed if he get's any worse I'm gonna have to start comparing the WBC to the IBF in a who's worst talk.

Naito went 8-0 to earn a rematch with Wonjongkam in I think it was 2005. Arce barely moved up to Flyweight that same year. He was fighting at Junior Flyweight before that. So at that time Arce was not more deserving than Naito. As for there 3rd fight? Arce is no longer fighting at Flyweight. So how is he deserving of a title shot at Flyweight? I ain't defending Wonjongkam. He should of fought Arce, Parra and the other big names. All I'm saying is Naito earned his title shots.

Don't mind me VD as ANYTHING that sounds remotely as a good thing for PongsaShit or anything that sounds like his opponents where worthy I'll go against. Nothing against them.

[:::PSL:::]

Viva! Nonito!
Viva!
Viva! Naito!Viva!

I gotta admit, their names make good rhymes.

[No Contest]

Well this sets up a rematch with Sakata for Naito, a unification fight in Japan. Hopefully the winner will go forward and try to unify the belts. Maybe Donaire and Narvaes can meet to unify the other two big belts.