I dunno what your on about, but you claim hopkins called him out? after hopkins beat Daniels there was a Tv link up with RJJ in his changing room just before he was going out to defend HIS WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO, WBF, IBA, NBA, - during that hopkins wanted roy to come down in weight, as well as fight for a 50-50 split...Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
"Ive done that before,why do I need to do it again"-Roy Jones Jr when he still had a beltOriginally Posted by Preme
Bernard hopkins talsk about fighting everyone and hardly any of them come off... All hopkins had to do to fight jones was just step up and take the 40% - there are just 2 simple reasons why hopkins didnt fight jones IMo and they are A) he new he would not beat him and rather stayed in a weak devision and make his money there or B) he really did think he was entitled to a 50-50 split, even tho jones had already beat him with one hand and was a 3 weight undisouted world champion, and all hopkins had done was beat tito...Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
Echols,Joppy,Eastman,Holmes,Vanderpool,and undefeated 32-0 Glen Johnson(you may remember that name,he took Roy Jones Jrs head off),and now Winky WrightOriginally Posted by Preme
would prolly put him in the 40's-60's really... Whislt most people seem to love hopkins and think hes so great, i can't see it.. he is a very good boxer i give him massive props for doing what hes doing now at his age... still, what prime fighter has he taken out who are real names? tito and Oscar, neither were Middle's...Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
All right with out anyone saying he used his head,,,,Winky was smaller,, Hopkins was dirty,,,, The ring was too small,, Winky had a hangnail,, He timed his coffee wrong ect or anything else that can be thought of.....
I am looking for answers on just over all career wise.....
He is one of the greatest Middleweights of all time and now he has jumped up 2 divisions and had two fights against the top names in the sport
Where does this put Bernard on the all time list?.....
Where does it put him as a great of our era?.....
He has a good resume...He has been dominate....Most of all he has been able to be a top guy in his 40's....Something fighters have done in the past but mostly Heavyweights and LHW's....
If you had to rank Hopkins where would he fall
hopkins as far as i'm concerned should of left middle years ago, he liked it there coz he could coast it, when he got beat and had to leave he went up to the next weakest divsion at the time, skipping SMW to fight an overhyped tarver... the 20 defenses and total unification is enough to make him a great, but he aint up there with the cream of the greats, he never chased the big dangerous fights... to often he let them slip bye...
And he called Roy Jones out for years,only to get dodged
I honestly don't know what one i would go for? I men Hopkins rather stayed at Mw fighting 'decent; fighters for years after he beat tito, all along he was making F*** all? there were fihts he went into in his home state of PA wher ehe didnt even know how much he was walking away with, wasn't he making under a mil for one or two fights, when he was the undisputed Mw champ? he choose that over $3m pay days with joe, a chance to become a 2 devision WC, or 40% of RJJ, and that would of been easily around 5 mill at that time??
"He should take %40"-Roy Jones Jr when he didnt have a belt and Bernard was undisputed
"Ill fight him anywhere"-Roy Jones Jr now that nobody cares
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