Where are B Hop and WInky in the p4p lists after their fight?

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All right with out anyone saying he used his head,,,,Winky was smaller,, Hopkins was dirty,,,, The ring was too small,, Winky had a hangnail,, He timed his coffee wrong ect or anything else that can be thought of.....

I am looking for answers on just over all career wise.....

He is one of the greatest Middleweights of all time and now he has jumped up 2 divisions and had two fights against the top names in the sport

Where does this put Bernard on the all time list?.....

Where does it put him as a great of our era?.....

He has a good resume...He has been dominate....Most of all he has been able to be a top guy in his 40's....Something fighters have done in the past but mostly Heavyweights and LHW's....

If you had to rank Hopkins where would he fall

would prolly put him in the 40's-60's really... Whislt most people seem to love hopkins and think hes so great, i can't see it.. he is a very good boxer i give him massive props for doing what hes doing now at his age... still, what prime fighter has he taken out who are real names? tito and Oscar, neither were Middle's...

hopkins as far as i'm concerned should of left middle years ago, he liked it there coz he could coast it, when he got beat and had to leave he went up to the next weakest divsion at the time, skipping SMW to fight an overhyped tarver... the 20 defenses and total unification is enough to make him a great, but he aint up there with the cream of the greats, he never chased the big dangerous fights... to often he let them slip bye...

Echols,Joppy,Eastman,Holmes,Vanderpool,and undefeated 32-0 Glen Johnson(you may remember that name,he took Roy Jones Jrs head off),and now Winky Wright
And he called Roy Jones out for years,only to get dodged

Bernard hopkins talsk about fighting everyone and hardly any of them come off... All hopkins had to do to fight jones was just step up and take the 40% - there are just 2 simple reasons why hopkins didnt fight jones IMo and they are A) he new he would not beat him and rather stayed in a weak devision and make his money there or B) he really did think he was entitled to a 50-50 split, even tho jones had already beat him with one hand and was a 3 weight undisouted world champion, and all hopkins had done was beat tito...

I honestly don't know what one i would go for? I men Hopkins rather stayed at Mw fighting 'decent; fighters for years after he beat tito, all along he was making F*** all? there were fihts he went into in his home state of PA wher ehe didnt even know how much he was walking away with, wasn't he making under a mil for one or two fights, when he was the undisputed Mw champ? he choose that over $3m pay days with joe, a chance to become a 2 devision WC, or 40% of RJJ, and that would of been easily around 5 mill at that time??

CC# 329...Though I don't totally agree with your answer you make Valid points.....Unlike some other guys Named Bx730NY....IMO he is not the greatest I was just curious where some people felt he belonged....I was in no way trying to build up Hopkins or make a case for him one way or the other.....Just like to know how everyone else ranks him according to where I do....

IMO as middleweight he is in the top 3 or 4....As an all time fighter I think I put him a little higher somewhere around the high 20's to the mid 30's

without a doub hopkins is a top few at middle of all time, the other thing i have with placing fighters now, is boxing has been going on for sooooo long, evn the top 40 or 50 in the ATG list is still highly respectable group to be in...

but again with hopkins, he did need to be able to have a mega fight with a prime proven middleweight or LHW, or even if they wern't a prime, a fighter just starting to get old, Roy had Toney, and a good few names, sadly hopkins in his prime had to former Welters as his greatest wins, and with the talent out there and there being no reason why he couldn't step up, that will always stop me form putting hopkins high up in any great list..

CC back btw...