Taylor has already beaten Pavlik

[DaxxKahn]

It ridiculous to think he will win based on a amatuer fight. You ever notice those big pillow gloves and the headgear? Yes it makes a difference.

What pillow size gloves....They are 2oz over pro...Lighter then the avgerage sparring glove....I'll tell you what Put a standard pillow over your head...Let one of your buddies punch you in the side of your head about 20 times as hard as he can....Afterwards you tell me how much the pillow helped....The pillow that is thicker then the head gear that you claim makes sure no damage occurs....Then let the same guy put on 10oz gloves and punch you in the middle of your face 20 times where the head gear does not cover.....

Come back after dental work and let me know what you think of head gear and amateur gloves then

Your kidding yourself if you think pro and amatuers are the same fight, you score points for any connect on the white part of the glove, even if its a pitty pat shot. Pro's put alot more emphasis on power shots.

I don't remember any part of that conversation having to do with the pro's and amateurs being the same fight.....

I think the wole conversation had to do with the head gear and gloves making the shots not hurt

[bzkfn]

At the olympics he'll probably do it again.

Totally different game.

[Mar]

I think he'll beat him again (if it really even makes sense to say again) but it won't have anything to do with the olympics.

[El Gamo]

Pavlik has said he is training for 3 different types of JT performance.And if Pavlik wins,there is a rematch at 168. I definitely favour Kelly at 160 at this moment.

[No Contest]

Oh, then sorry Daxx I thought you were argueing that point. I think the headgear has a lil cushion effect, and with the bigger gloves, makes cuts impossible and its also harder to break through the guard, or split it with bigger gloves. I'm just saying it does factor in the fight.Aside from that, there is also the 8 extra rounds there will be in the pros.