Quote Originally Posted by Preme
Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Erm Preme,may be Im shocked because he has 2 wins over B Hop who is number 5 and a draw with Winky who is number 6? 2 wins and a draw against 2 defensive masters,and guys who have been P4P for a while and JT does not make P4P?? Those 2 names on his resume are as good as anyone else names on other resumes. Sure he looked bad v Spinks and Ouma but he won.Simple as.
I'd tend to agree with you, however I think it is a question of on what criteria you judge the p4p status. If you look at it recently, B-Hop has beaten Tarver and Wright, whilst Taylor has struggled with Spinks and Ouma. For me I don't think Barrera should be in the p4p list any more, because he hasn't performed at the top level for a few years now, although he looked OK against JMM. I think Barrera is in there simply because of his pedigree, rather than where he ranks among his peers on current form.
Most people who watched that fight agreed JMM won a very very close decision.. a few thought barrera even won.. so if JMM just won and stays in the list, then surly barrera should be jsut behinde him in it?
Have no idea where you are going with that one bro.Fightwriter,Eastside,doghouse,boxingtalk and maxboxing had JMM winning with scores similar to those of the judges.NONE thought MAB won(I posted the scores at the time) and most of these guys help RING to decide their lists. Also,I agree with SHR,MAB has not fought great competition for a long long time(Fana,Peden,even Juarez do not cut it for me)


Quote Originally Posted by Preme
Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
Erm Preme,may be Im shocked because he has 2 wins over B Hop who is number 5 and a draw with Winky who is number 6? 2 wins and a draw against 2 defensive masters,and guys who have been P4P for a while and JT does not make P4P?? Those 2 names on his resume are as good as anyone else names on other resumes. Sure he looked bad v Spinks and Ouma but he won.Simple as.
sorry, u mention spinks...

Yeah he got the DC, JUST again... but going by that, anaturalmiddle v a former WW and JUST won.. surlyif taylor belongs on the list then spinks does to?? you would have to be higher up even, being the smaller fighter and unluckily lossing against the undisputed middleweight??

P4P list is a list of the best fighters in the world right now, and taylor sure as hell isnt one.... its not a case of what you done 3 years ago, or how many fans you have... if your one of the best boxers in the world you belong on that list, if you look piss poor and are not performing, you don't belong there, simple as that.

I see the same people (not saying u gam) defending taylor for being dropped form the list, when they had no problems when hatton was, even tho he was still winning...
I'm surprised to see the highlighted because if that is the case, and I'm just using him as an example again because I know you really like him,MAB should not have been on the list for a long long time. He looked like shit v Juarez the first time(a Juarez who got his ass handed on a plate to him by Soto) and he beat guys like I mentioned earlier. His biggest fight in ages(v JMM and he lost it).

My point is, JT beat and drew with 2 P4P and HOF guys,which was not too long ago and he's not on the list? How can anyone argue against that? Sure he looked woeful in his last 2 fights but it does not detract from the fact that he got the W and beat/drew with 2 guys that are there now.


Post your list for me please.